Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

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jakez4ut said:
that's fine, and i am not gonna really disagree or anything.....but....

You can't say Tennessee has recruited "poorly" over the last 8 years. There's been multiple years where Butch and Pruitt landed top 10 classes and for those that that aren't really paying close attention, and just see the rankings that's enough. But i think we all know, even going back to Kiffin's big class, there was always a hook with those classes. Butch's 1st one was a legacy class, then the other was 30+ kids, and pruitt was getting highly rated players that Bama or Georgia didn't want etc, etc, etc....point being there were always other narratives about 'how good' were those good classes?

this class doesn't have that at all. in fact, this class looks and feels more like the classes we used to bring in back in the day. more of a national flavor, that's attracting the best instate kids because they want to be here again.

i think this class has a very good chance of being that cornerstone class for this program under CJH and sets the tone for what you can expect going forward.

of course the dynamic is different today with ESD, NIL, and the transfer portal, so more land mines to be aware of and account for, but i really like the make up of this class. there are a ton of guys in this class that are top 3-5 players in their state, many who are winning All Conf/Dist/State/MVP awards....some big personalities, and some with some giant chips on their shoulder (John Slaughter and Jack Lutrell to name a couple). not to mention some guys that i think will turn in to good leaders for this program.....Nico, Herring among others.

i'm excited about where we're headed....and it looks like we're getting the types of players that can keep us there.
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I didn't say Tennessee has recruited "poorly" over the last 8 years.

But 90.93 is the highest per player average for a class at TN since Fulmer era. It's only the 2nd class we've had with the average per player rating over 90. Pruitt's best class in 2019 was 90.46 per player.

So objectively this is the best recruiting class TN has had since Fulmer retired, hopefully that translates to on the field production in the future and continuing to be a CFP team.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I didn't say Tennessee has recruited "poorly" over the last 8 years.

But 90.93 is the highest per player average for a class at TN since Fulmer era. It's only the 2nd class we've had with the average per player rating over 90. Pruitt's best class in 2018 was 90.43 per player.

So objectively this is the best recruiting class TN has had since Fulmer retired, hopefully that translates to on the field production in the future and continuing to be a CFP team.
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that was just a general statement, the "collective you", not that you said it.....;)
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I didn't say Tennessee has recruited "poorly" over the last 8 years.

But 90.93 is the highest per player average for a class at TN since Fulmer era. It's only the 2nd class we've had with the average per player rating over 90. Pruitt's best class in 2018 was 90.43 per player.

So objectively this is the best recruiting class TN has had since Fulmer retired, hopefully that translates to on the field production in the future and continuing to be a CFP team.
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It can also be argued we had some pretty good classes followed up by horrible development and/or terrible culture and high number of attrition.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
I’d love to hit up the other islands. I’ve been to Oahu 7 times but it was never my choice, it was just a port visit on deployments. If you escape Waikiki and get around the island it’s really nice but wish I could have tried a different island. Buddy of mine was from Big Island and we were supposed to catch a quick flight over there for a couple days on one of our stops but the plans fell through. I was bummed.
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Surprise you had a good experience on the north shore. They arent exactly welcoming to outsiders.
 
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We have always recruited well as compared to the majority of schools in the past. We have not recruited well compared to our rivals and we have not developed the talent that we have recruited. If you are not in the top 10 in the nation recruiting you are 5th or 6th in the SEC. That is why the SEC is always so tough as a whole.....pretty simple really.
 
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jakez4ut said:
Davein Hobbs i think lined up at every position on the field this past season according to his highlight video...DL, DE, LB, TE, OL, WR, RB...i think he took some snaps at QB too...didn't see if he played in the secondary or kicked anything.......? lol.
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He is going to be a freak
 
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jakez4ut said:
i trust the readers too much? :cool:
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I only quote people if what I'm saying is direct at or replying to them. It causes less confusion normally.

Don't disagree with what you said though.

But I think at this point we can all comfortably put to rest the early concerns about "can he recruit at this level"

Since now Heupel has essentially surpassed all previous recruiting classes and is approaching Fulmer level in recruiting. He'll need to repeat it for a few more years though obviously. I'd say next year's class will have some big time skill players in it (RB/WR especially).
 
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jakez4ut said:
well in fairness to toot...he didn't have to deal with Darenell Wright all night long.....
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That’s true but you’d think the guy the media has built up to be a bad man all year wouldn’t take the biggest game of the year off. Taking plays off and just going through the motions makes him look lazy and unmotivated. Some former players said as much.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I only quote people if what I'm saying is direct at or replying to them. It causes less confusion normally.

Don't disagree with what you said though.

But I think at this point we can all comfortably put to rest the early concerns about "can he recruit at this level"

Since now Heupel has essentially surpassed all previous recruiting classes and is approaching Fulmer level in recruiting. He'll need to repeat it for a few more years though obviously. I'd say next year's class will have some big time skill players in it (RB/WR especially).
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fair. would have been better stated to say "it can't be said TN hasn't recruited well....."......

agreed. he can 'cruit.

sustaining it is the hardest part. but a lot like with the 23 class, they've started early on the 24 class, and this past season will leave an impression for sure as many of those kids were on campus for several of these big games, so i expect we'll be in the thick of it for many of the same players Bama, GA, aTm, LSU, FL etc....are all after as well.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
There's really no big separation between 3rd to 11th

3rd is Texas: 294.53
11th is Clemson 274.22

That's essentially a single player difference if he's a high 4 star. So I'm pretty happy with where we are, our lowest rated guy is Nate Spillman and he's a 3 star at 84.39 and an in-state kid. But our per player average is 90.93 which is the highest it's been in quite a while.
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He also has a highly rated brother coming through next year...
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