Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

[drvenner]

Ok, you morans, I'm out of pocket for a week basking it up in the Caribbean. I just wanted to let you all know that I didn't get the ban hammer for being a Pens fan. See you on the flip side, Clyde.

 

[drvenner]

Last year Golden State started off whipping Cleveland's arse and then magically the Cavaliers came alive and ended up winning... fast forward to this year-- Golden State has been whipping Cleveland's arse and all of a sudden Cleveland is coming alive.... care to wager who ends up winning?
Penguins whip Preds first two games
Preds whip Penguins next two games
Magically Penguins then tear Preds a new one ...

Same players on same teams, same level of talent....

$$$$$ these championship finals are all fixed to maximize revenue....

For the love of all that is holy.

 

[MockingVol]

Last year Golden State started off whipping Cleveland's arse and then magically the Cavaliers came alive and ended up winning... fast forward to this year-- Golden State has been whipping Cleveland's arse and all of a sudden Cleveland is coming alive.... care to wager who ends up winning?
Penguins whip Preds first two games
Preds whip Penguins next two games
Magically Penguins then tear Preds a new one ...

Same players on same teams, same level of talent....

$$$$$ these championship finals are all fixed to maximize revenue....

I think it would require a good deal of tin foil to come to the conclusion that the games are rigged.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

I think it would require a good deal of tin foil to come to the conclusion that the games are rigged.

I don't think the NBA rigs games per se, but I do think they pressure refs to give the benefit of the doubt to the big money teams and to try and get more games out of a series if they can.

So maybe tampering is a better term than rigging.

 

[Skullbone]

I like the Warriors center, McGee, I think it is. That dude can jump.

 

[overseasorange2]

Ok, you morans, I'm out of pocket for a week basking it up in the Caribbean. I just wanted to let you all know that I didn't get the ban hammer for being a Pens fan. See you on the flip side, Clyde.

I'm leaving Monday for Cozumel. Where do you want to meet?hmy:lol:

 

[Skullbone]

I'm leaving Monday for Cozumel. Where do you want to meet?hmy:lol:

Sign up to go to Passion Island. It's awesome.

 

[overseasorange2]

Sign up to go to Passion Island. It's awesome.

Ok Thanks. I'll look into it!:hi:

 

[jave36]

I think it would require a good deal of tin foil to come to the conclusion that the games are rigged.

I don't agree with the guy, but there is probably no other conspiracy that has as much merit as this one. Sweeps are horrible for the business. It requires about an ounce of tin foil, to use your analogy.

 

[volinbama256]

I think it would require a good deal of tin foil to come to the conclusion that the games are rigged.

Good Lawd, there's some sarcasm here obviously.... It is funny though how lately series seem to go to the 7th game... throw in Baseball to the mix...
It is funny how someone can justify one team of athletes putting the beatdown on another team of athletes several games in a row and then all of a sudden the first team seems to sputter and the other team that has been getting whipped, all of a sudden rises up and outplays the same team and athletes that whipped them the last two games.... same players... So was Lebron and Co just going through the motions and letting GS whip them and then decided to wake up and beat them by 21 points? (again, same players, same teams... talk about inconsistent performance levels) The officials and home field advantage definitely play into this, you just have to find it funny how almost scripted these series have become... I will be shocked if the Preds don't beat the Penguins to take to game 7.... Do I really believe they are fixed? No, but don't be naive enough to think the mighty $$$ in 2017 doesn't rule....

 

[chavisut]

My original prediction is on the money so I'm sticking with Warriors in 5.

 

[Catbone]

My original prediction is on the money so I'm sticking with Warriors in 5.

Good call

 

[volinbama256]

My original prediction is on the money so I'm sticking with Warriors in 5.

I hope you are right....

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

So I never realized this but heard it recently on the radio. The NBA now gets 25% of all playoff game revenue (used to be higher). That money is thrown into the overall pot and helps determine future salary caps. This year is slated to have the fewest number of playoff games since all series became a 7 game series. Therefore, the salary cap could decrease by a $1 million next year, which cuts into player salaries. That means the overall goal of the league and players should always be long series so as to grow the cap. Now you begin to see why the NBA is run like it is.

Then it is rigged, and that makes it garbage.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

LOL. Look at where the players on both rosters were drafted. The Cavs have the better average. Lebron is not MJ.

Seriously. I don't care where Darren Williams was drafted. Golden State has a much better roster and it is incredibly stupid to argue otherwise.

Just to clarify, I'm not calling poster stupid. Just the notion that some are trying to make.

 

[scvolfan7]

Michael Jordan and LeBron James in the Finals:

MJ played 9 Hall of Famers
LeBron... 26

From FS1. This goes back to a topic I brought up a while ago. Lebron has faced much better players and teams than MJ ever did and still doesn't get credit. I'm not sure we will ever see another athlete as great as lebron that receives so much unwarranted criticism

 

[MockingVol]

The refs sucked last night, but they still didn't impact the outcome of the game that much. Refs can only really impact those games that are decided by a few plays. Ref quality across all sports has really dropped the past couple of years in conjunction with the sports trying to protect the athletes more. Though there is no doubt that the NBA wants the series to go 7-games, it is much more logical to say the refs just had a bad night then to say they tried to influence the outcome.

Then on the player front, do you realize how much more difficult it would be to try and lose while making it look like you are trying than to just play?

Got to remember to apply Occum's Razor friends.

 

[jave36]

The refs sucked last night, but they still didn't impact the outcome of the game that much. Refs can only really impact those games that are decided by a few plays. Ref quality across all sports has really dropped the past couple of years in conjunction with the sports trying to protect the athletes more. Though there is no doubt that the NBA wants the series to go 7-games, it is much more logical to say the refs just had a bad night then to say they tried to influence the outcome.

Then on the player front, do you realize how much more difficult it would be to try and lose while making it look like you are trying than to just play?

Got to remember to apply Occum's Razor friends.

Refs in basketball can have a huge impact, more than just about any other sport. Again, I'm not one of those conspiracy nuts, and maybe you were just using unnecessarily extreme hyperbole, but it's not that far fetched that the league can and would influence games that have literally tens of millions of dollars of impact on their business.

 

[VolGee4]

Michael Jordan and LeBron James in the Finals:

MJ played 9 Hall of Famers
LeBron... 26

From FS1. This goes back to a topic I brought up a while ago. Lebron has faced much better players and teams than MJ ever did and still doesn't get credit. I'm not sure we will ever see another athlete as great as lebron that receives so much unwarranted criticism

It's not all unwarranted. "The Decision" didn't help him. So, people don't like LBJ? People don't like MJ either.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Michael Jordan and LeBron James in the Finals:

MJ played 9 Hall of Famers
LeBron... 26

From FS1. This goes back to a topic I brought up a while ago. Lebron has faced much better players and teams than MJ ever did and still doesn't get credit. I'm not sure we will ever see another athlete as great as lebron that receives so much unwarranted criticism

Because of Michael Jordan kids grew up playing the sport more. This led to a way better field. Basketball was always popular but Jordan took it to unbelievable heights. Players are simply better now. Maybe not as physical but that's the way the game is called. Definitely more athletic at skilled.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

It's not all unwarranted. "The Decision" didn't help him. So, people don't like LBJ? People don't like MJ either.

What's odd is that people hate Lebron who is a model citizen but they love Draymond who is a punk.

 

[VolGee4]

What's odd is that people hate Lebron who is a model citizen but they love Draymond who is a punk.

Not me. I am not a Warriors fan, but I could root for Curry and Durant.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Not me. I am not a Warriors fan, but I could root for Curry and Durant.

Me too. I like most of the GS team. I also like the players on Cavs. Being casual, I just want a good series.

 

[Vols4us]

Please, basketball season; just die already.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Me too. I like most of the GS team. I also like the players on Cavs. Being casual, I just want a good series.

Maybe it's just me but I cannot stand Curry. Just comes off as a cocky punk who has just mastered the three point shot. Greatest 3 point shooter of all time IMO. If I'm the Cavs I'm getting as physical as possible against Curry. A couple times a game they should just go straight bad boy Pistons on him and just knock the bejesus out of him if he comes in the lane.