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jave36 said:
I'm in Arkansas, where we have tons of tornados and flooding, so natural disasters are a possibility. Masters degree will be finished before I join the reserves or guard, so education benefits don't really matter (unless they have student loan repayment).
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I have a buddy from AR. He is full time with National Guard Bureau. I could try to get some info from him on the AR NG if you like. Sarge made a good point. What are you looking to get out of it. That is important because it can really influence the advice. If you already have your degree you will should be able to enlist as an E-4. Sarge can correct me if I'm wrong on that. He may have more knowledge of enlisted information.
 
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SergeantVol said:
They do have student loan repayment on the enlisted side pending what job you contract into. I would encourage you to get a commission and be an officer. The pay is a million times better. You would glide to at least a Major given that you have a Masters degree. Glitch can probably speak more to the officer side since he never worked for a living while he was in.
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You SOB! I made E-6 in 7 years and would've made E-7 in 10 had I not gone the occifer route.

The pay is great and since you will have your Master's you would be ahead of most of your peers. What job are you looking at doing?
 
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SergeantVol said:
The National Guard consists of combat units. The Reserves is combat support. Deployment ratio leans a little more to the Guard side currently. The only drawback really to either is the people. Coming from active to Reserves was a culture shock. A lot of grabassery on the weekends but when it comes to the mission Reservists and Guardsmen can throw down. Most weekends you will feel that you are doing BS work (the admin monster) and it'll feel like it was a waste. Mentorship can be lacking at times. Most don't want to move units for career progression because they are around their buddies. It can be a plus as well if you are career minded, less competition. I am about to put on Master Sergeant with only 16 years time in service. What are your goals for joining? College? Experience? Something fulfilling?

Can't speak to the Air Guard. I honestly have no idea.
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I've already done college so not looking for education help. Always regretted not joining military full time, but marriage/job prohibits that now. Seems like the part time military is a good way to do both. Always felt like someone who is smart enough and physically able should do a little something for his country, even if it's not as much as others. Don't care as much about military advancement unless i could move up without moving too far from my current job. Would prefer as much predictability as possible is probably my top preference. I'd also like to get a job that's enjoyable. I guess I'd scrub toilets if duty called, but it would be cool to do something somewhat intellectually stimulating.
 
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Glitch said:
You SOB! I made E-6 in 7 years and would've made E-7 in 10 had I not gone the occifer route.

The pay is great and since you will have your Master's you would be ahead of most of your peers. What job are you looking at doing?
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No clue what job, just started looking into it for when I finish my MBA next year.
 
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Glitch said:
I have a buddy from AR. He is full time with National Guard Bureau. I could try to get some info from him on the AR NG if you like. Sarge made a good point. What are you looking to get out of it. That is important because it can really influence the advice. If you already have your degree you will should be able to enlist as an E-4. Sarge can correct me if I'm wrong on that. He may have more knowledge of enlisted information.
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Correct. E4 automatic with enlistment.
 
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jave36 said:
No clue what job, just started looking into it for when I finish my MBA next year.
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Do you want to do something that corresponds with your degrees? What is your Bachelor's in?
 
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jave36 said:
I've already done college so not looking for education help. Always regretted not joining military full time, but marriage/job prohibits that now. Seems like the part time military is a good way to do both. Always felt like someone who is smart enough and physically able should do a little something for his country, even if it's not as much as others. Don't care as much about military advancement unless i could move up without moving too far from my current job. Would prefer as much predictability as possible is probably my top preference. I'd also like to get a job that's enjoyable. I guess I'd scrub toilets if duty called, but it would be cool to do something somewhat intellectually stimulating.
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The intellectually stimulating part can be difficult. I have always enjoyed the intelligence field. It mostly pertains to knowing enemy military capabilities and how they doctrinally fight. You make an educated assessment on what you think they would do based on posture, terrain, and other conditions in the ground. Each job area has a specific function to fulfill. However, not too many offer much in the way of intellectual stimulation (critical thinking). Most of it is just executing at the highest efficiency possible.
 
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jave36 said:
I'd probably try to go the officer route first, but e4 would be a nice starting point if not.
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If you've got a degree and are capable of leadership, critical thinking, and planning then Officer is the way to go. Enlisted is great but being an Officer will probably provide more intellectual stimulation in the form of planning and preparing for events in the future.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Tim for Jim Johnson to go. One of the worst blown saves I've seen. He leads the MLB in blown saves. Surely Braves have a guy at Gwinnett that can be a better closer. Good grief
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Yep, it's pitiful! He's blown 7 saves. Win 5 of those, and they are 2 games over .500 and within striking distance of Washington. Had their ace beat last night, and Dickey had another strong outing, and JJ blows it. Now, watch them lose the next 2 to end the first half of the season. Need to go out and invest in a real closer, if they don't have one in Gwinnett.
 
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Glitch said:
If you've got a degree and are capable of leadership, critical thinking, and planning then Officer is the way to go. Enlisted is great but being an Officer will probably provide more intellectual stimulation in the form of planning and preparing for events in the future.
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Depends on the officer! I do all the planning and prep work for my Company. Of course, I'm one of the few senior enlisted joes with a masters.
 
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SergeantVol said:
Depends on the officer! I do all the planning and prep work for my Company. Of course, I'm one of the few senior enlisted joes with a masters.
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What do your occifers do? Drink coffee and play grab azz?
 
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ogbabyavivol said:
yep, it's pitiful! He's blown 7 saves. Win 5 of those, and they are 2 games over .500 and within striking distance of washington. Had their ace beat last night, and dickey had another strong outing, and jj blows it. Now, watch them lose the next 2 to end the first half of the season. Need to go out and invest in a real closer, if they don't have one in gwinnett.
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yes
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
IMO, it was stupid when they traded Craig Kimbrel. He was young and a fantastic closer. I know we would've had to pay him, but they were building the team on youth, like Freddie, and he was young. Made no sense in my opinion.
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There were a couple decisions that were strange. Kimbrel was one and Alex Wood was another, and he's now an all star
 
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SergeantVol said:
The intellectually stimulating part can be difficult. I have always enjoyed the intelligence field. It mostly pertains to knowing enemy military capabilities and how they doctrinally fight. You make an educated assessment on what you think they would do based on posture, terrain, and other conditions in the ground. Each job area has a specific function to fulfill. However, not too many offer much in the way of intellectual stimulation (critical thinking). Most of it is just executing at the highest efficiency possible.
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Good to know, thanks to all of you for the input.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Forgot about Wood! Ugh! But we sign 44 yr old Colon to a $12 million one year contract… SMH. No sense.
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Yeah I feel like for the most part they've done a good job, but there have been a few head scratchers. Out young starters with teheran, Folty and Newcomb to along with Alex Wood would be a serious rotation
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
IMO, it was stupid when they traded Craig Kimbrel. He was young and a fantastic closer. I know we would've had to pay him, but they were building the team on youth, like Freddie, and he was young. Made no sense in my opinion.
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It allowed them to dump BJ's salary and get some young arms while not contending. I think a .500 type team was what they were going for this year with the new ballpark and have more of these young guns ready for 18 and 19. Kimbrel is great but having him and only being two games over .500 and over six games back is still not a championship calibur club.

I see them moving some pieces to get them there with the great farm system they have built and some moves for a couple of free agents to put them back in it for the long haul. A ten plus year run. But it starts in either 18 or 19.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Yeah I feel like for the most part they've done a good job, but there have been a few head scratchers. Out young starters with teheran, Folty and Newcomb to along with Alex Wood would be a serious rotation
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They have better kids coming than any of those guys. Wait and watch. The old guys were one year stop gaps to try to just be decent this year with a new ballpark. Colon just fell off the face of the earth. He will get picked up and probably beat the crap out of us.
 
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JacketVol said:
They have better kids coming than any of those guys. Wait and watch. The old guys were one year stop gaps to try to just be decent this year with a new ballpark. Colon just fell off the face of the earth. He will get picked up and probably beat the crap out of us.
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What about the set up guy? He was throwing heat last night. Ramirez. Make him the closer see how he does.
 
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