Recruiting Problems After All?

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CSpindizzy

CSpindizzy

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Volquest.com's Brent Hubbs writes: Tennessee is in a very different recruiting place. Never before have the coaches tried to sell their program after not going to a bowl game.
I think that challenge is greater than many anticipated and as a result this is not going to be a typical Tennessee recruiting class. It will obviously have some good players, but as of now, it is hard to see it making Tennessee's normal national splash.

 
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Don't think we'll have top 10 but don't think we'll tank either. Won't put out the dead horse yet but I am sure it won't be long.
 
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this is all there is to talk about as far as footbal is concerned for us and the media, at least since we're not practicing and headed to a bowl....

so yeah, there's going to be criticism etc....but we still have over a month til signing day....we alwasy have strong Januarys....now this may not be as strong as last year or years past..but it won't be awful....

there is a positive side to this...we do have opportunity for young impact players to come in and make a difference early....
 
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(jakez4ut @ Dec 22 said:
there is a positive side to this...we do have opportunity for young impact players to come in and make a difference early....
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Translation: We have a 50-50 shot of EITHER having some young playmakers develop very fast and getting us 8-9 wins OR having a really sucky year that will make this year look good.
 
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Well considering they usually either ride the bench or get redshirted, we shouldn't see that much of a problem if we do wind up having a bad recruiting year. It usually takes a year to filter up and even play. Of course this past year we had to rely on Foster to kick up our running game in the last half.
 
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After the 1988 season (5-6) the Vols picked up recruits like WR Craig Faulkner, WR Cory Fleming, LB Reggie Ingram, DE Todd Kelly, QB Steve Matthews, LB Dewayne Dotson, DL Horace Morris, and DL James Warren. That is not the entire list, but shows some high quality talent still came to UT after a 5-6 season. FYI - RB Keith Jeter was also in the recruiting class. He was a highly recruited running back that ended up being a bust.

The 1989 UT squad finished the season 11-1.

However, freshmen rarely make an impact. It will be last year's recruiting class that starts to make in impact next season. That plus the fact that there is alot of returning talent has me excited about a championship run next season.
 
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There is no doubt in my mind that we will take a hit in this year's recruiting class. Oh, we will get some good players no doubt, but we won't get as many of the four and five star type of players of the past. Obviously, program stability is important in many player's eyes, but many players who want the "disciplined" type of program are steering away from UT and going elsewhere. Without a doubt, UT's discipline problems have left its mark on this year's recruiting class. I hope that we can overcome this "black-eye" sooner than later for our recruiting chances in the years to come.
 
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Which is better, getting the most out of a two/three star player or a four/five that can't develop?
 
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(allvol @ Dec 22 said:
After the 1988 season (5-6) the Vols picked up recruits like WR Craig Faulkner, WR Cory Fleming, LB Reggie Ingram, DE Todd Kelly, QB Steve Matthews, LB Dewayne Dotson, DL Horace Morris, and DL James Warren. That is not the entire list, but shows some high quality talent still came to UT after a 5-6 season. FYI - RB Keith Jeter was also in the recruiting class. He was a highly recruited running back that ended up being a bust.

The 1989 UT squad finished the season 11-1.

However, freshmen rarely make an impact. It will be last year's recruiting class that starts to make in impact next season. That plus the fact that there is alot of returning talent has me excited about a championship run next season.
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I'll second that! :cross:
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Dec 22 said:
I want some whine with my Christmas cheese dangit.
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Careful, keep that up, and you'll be mistaken for an ACC football fan....i hear whine and cheese is all the rave in places like Chapel Hill and Charlotesville....
 
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(crimedawg12 @ Dec 22 said:
Which is better, getting the most out of a two/three star player or a four/five that can't develop?
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I say the previous, but you still can't teach speed, and that is one of the major differneces between a three star and a four star.

Part of the issue also depends on the player and the position. It may be a lot easier to take a three star running back and turn him into a tremendous linebacker. To me, that kind of flexability is the one positive about recruiting three star athletes.
 
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(Lexvol @ Dec 22 said:
I say the previous, but you still can't teach speed, and that is one of the major differneces between a three star and a four star.
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Yeah but I have said before there are atheletes and there are football players. What can they do with the pads on? I would rather have a Craig Faulkner type instead of Lenard Scott, what a pair of hands he had. (but he could fly).
 
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(Lexvol @ Dec 22 said:
I say the previous, but you still can't teach speed, and that is one of the major differneces between a three star and a four star.

Part of the issue also depends on the player and the position. It may be a lot easier to take a three star running back and turn him into a tremendous linebacker. To me, that kind of flexability is the one positive about recruiting three star athletes.
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That is not always the case. There is a very low rated WR that is interested in TN. He is from GA I think. Can't recall name. He has amazing 40 time and 100 meter time. Shoot, the Garretson kid we signed at DT out of Knoxville is 280 pounds and runs a 4.7, yet he is only a 3-star. That is freakish speed for a guy his size.
 
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(crimedawg12 @ Dec 22 said:
Yeah but I have said before there are atheletes and there are football players. What can they do with the pads on? I would rather have a Craig Faulkner type instead of Lenard Scott, what a pair of hands he had. (but he could fly).
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Yep...it's called "Scott-Stallworth Syndrome". That 4.25 speed ain't worth a hoot if it's mounted to brick hands. Josh Reed didn't have great speed, but.....Jeez Almighty.....turn that kid loose in the secondary, and he would [a] get open, and catch the ball , virtually every time. We've had our share of them as well.

You can't teach speed...and (apparently) you can't un-teach bad hands.

Gimme the good hands. I'll run timing routes.
 
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A good receiver doesn't always have to have blazing speed. Sometimes the low rating can be based on a poor verticle. IMO some of the most talented receivers are the "explosive" types.

But when it comes to most other positions, especially on D, speed separates the three stars from the four and five stars. I personally think you can win with three star athletes.
 
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(Lexvol @ Dec 22 said:
A good receiver doesn't always have to have blazing speed. Sometimes the low rating can be based on a poor verticle. IMO some of the most talented receivers are the "explosive" types.

But when it comes to most other positions, especially on D, speed separates the three stars from the four and five stars. I personally think you can win with three star athletes.
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This harkens back to a previous thread that centered on "heart -vs- talent". The core issue being whether we would rather have a 5-star athlete with NFL aspirations, or a 3-star athlete who played his heart out for his Vols.

I guess the bottom line is that we'd all want a 5-star athlete with a 3-star heart, huh?

Merry Christmas. Keep safe out there.

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I still have faith in our ability to recruit. When all is said and done, we are still Tennessee and lots of guys would love to wear the orange.

So, let's wait until the fat lady sings and then we can see if she's singing the blues or "Celebration".
 
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i believe i mentioned we would have a bad recruiting class 3 months ago when our offense was struggling. how can you sell a offense that looked that bad, it is darn near impossible. i'm not buying it.
 
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