Recruiting so far

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rexvol

rexvol

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Looking at what Florida did last year and how they have started this year in recruiting, they might be running away from us. How did we fall so far so fast??
 
#2
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I think we are doing great so far in terms of the commitments we have. Three guys with WR potential, a durable RB, and the lineman from Michigan. Looking strong thus far.
 
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We need to make sure and land Golden Tate and Harrison Smith. It would be nice to get that DE from Alcoa, too. Losing elite instate prospects is disheartening.
 
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I dont guess it really matters what we do in recruiting. We have had a top class in the past 5 years, Im sure someone can give you the correct years, but anyways we have been up there & look how it still has turned out. This year when we recruit make sure that the player has DISCIPLINE! :wink2:
 
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right now i think we are doing alright. some teams around the country have really been able to do alot better though. i think for atleast the next 3 years fulmer will not have the steller classes he once had. alot of recruits will take the wait and see approach or will select a great school like ND, or USC. right now us vol fans have to accept it we are not in there class.
 
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(smokedog#3 @ May 4 said:
right now i think we are doing alright. some teams around the country have really been able to do alot better though. i think for atleast the next 3 years fulmer will not have the steller classes he once had. alot of recruits will take the wait and see approach or will select a great school like ND, or USC. right now us vol fans have to accept it we are not in there class.
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:cool: If just some of the trash flying around about USoCal players proves true, I expect we will see their recruiting fall apart completely. The NCAA frowns rather significantly on players receiving payoffs and luxury apartments as well as players parents living free in luxury rental homes.

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Yeah they do KYV, but they also like the megabucks that having a west coast powerhouse adds to the tv deal. They will not do a thing to USC unless some other PAC10 team steps up to become a BCS contender.
 
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(smokedog#3 @ May 4 said:
right now i think we are doing alright. some teams around the country have really been able to do alot better though. i think for atleast the next 3 years fulmer will not have the steller classes he once had. alot of recruits will take the wait and see approach or will select a great school like ND, or USC. right now us vol fans have to accept it we are not in there class.
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What a minute.... 18 months ago, Notre Dame was a mess. All of a sudden they have one good year and everyone is acting like they are the class of NCAA football. All TN has to do is win and they will be able to recruit with the best programs in college football. Winning is a cure-all of everything. TN has not fallen so drastically as everyone is trying to say. We had one bad year. The off year in recruiting is a result of the bad season. 17 and 18 year old kids have a short memory. If TN turns things around this year, they will be fine.
 
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Player development has been a large issue since the NC. Look at Riggs, Munoz, and the current receiving corps as an example. I still contend that the '04 recruiting class combined with Cut's experience may just put UT back on track. IMO all it takes is a trip back to the BCS to kick start things again.
 
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donatello i have to disagree. i think tennessee has fallen quite a bit in the last couple of years. kids think about going to play in the nfl and getting paid. it's been awhile since tennessee even had a first round draft pick untill this year ( allen breaking the drought ). also i think the rest of the sec has caught up to us alittle bit and acouple of teams blowing by us. ND has a very good coach and they just landed jimmy clausen. they have also landed quite a few other big named prospects. untill i see something from tennessee this year, i can honestly say we are not in there class. right now the elite teams of college football are USC, Texas, OSU, ND. i think those teams are in the BCS every year ( ND just starting their run ) and are getting alot of exposure. we are getting alot of exposure, but it is because we got beat by vandy and other teams we used to walk over. tennessee has fallen to a mid level SEC team, now we have to wait to see how fulmer does this year. we haven't won our conference since 98 and haven't been to a BCS bowl since 99. those two things are big negatives when it comes to the elite prospects. like lexvol said player development is huge and in recent years tennessee has done a horrible job.
 
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Remember just over a year ago, we had the number one recruiting class in the country. Yes, we have taken a major stumble in the last year. But if we have a good year this year, we should be able to get back on track. In a way, it was amazing that we got some of the recruits we got this past year with the 5-6 record. It just shows you how good of a recruiter Fulmer is. If we come back this year with 9 or 10 wins, I think we will be alright.

That being said, if we have another 5 win season, disaster is sure to ensue.
 
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(Bill Walton @ May 4 said:
Remember just over a year ago, we had the number one recruiting class in the country. Yes, we have taken a major stumble in the last year. But if we have a good year this year, we should be able to get back on track. In a way, it was amazing that we got some of the recruits we got this past year with the 5-6 record. It just shows you how good of a recruiter Fulmer is.
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That is Fulmer's bread and butter. We all know that the only thing he can do is manage and recruit.
 
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I will concur that TN has fallen off a bit since '98. Even though they have fallen a little, they have still had 10-win seasons in 4 of the 7 years since the national championship(1999, 2001, 2003, 2004). During that time, they have appeared in the SEC championship game 2 times. I believe that the 2001 team and the 2003 teams should have been in the BCS as an at-large team. Last year was a total fluke. Except for LSU, practically every close game TN played in was a loss. TN could have easily been 9-2 last year if they had gotten a few breaks. Things are not as horrible as everyone is trying make it seem.
 
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all very good points raised thus far...

Winning will help kickstart recruiting
development of said talent is still an issue, one that hopes to get resolved with return of Cut
Other shools are "hot" right now, and are getting majority of talent
recruits playing the wait and see card

all of that is true.

but it is early, and thus far, we've done OK in the comitts we've gotten so far. and things really won't crank up until the fall....we've got some huge home games this year, and that will be very attractive on recruiting visits.....esp. if we win some of those games.

Don't know if we're BCS worthy this year, but going to a new year's day bowl should be the goal this year...if we do that then chances are we have at least 9 wins, and a win over at least one of the following: Bama, UGA, UF, CAL, LSU....possibly two wins in that group. either of which would help.

Plus, if the offense does get better, it will be NOTICEABLE to just about anyone that follows college football. that in and of itself could create a little excitement for recruits.

i'd expect us to get at least a top 15 class this sesaon, if the results i think will happen do in fact come true.

the only way we slip in recruiting is if we follow up last year with a similar result. then the percepiton of UT being down has a lot more merit and might shy away some top prospects. but as stated, i don't think we'll be that bad again.
 
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If anybody has any connections there is a sleeper down at McMinn Co. High! RB/LB Trace McDermott. Strong fast kid, playing for a weak coaching staff in a tough region. Doesn't get much pub but he is as good or better than Knoxville/Chattanooga talent!
 
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(crimedawg12 @ May 5 said:
If anybody has any connections there is a sleeper down at McMinn Co. High! RB/LB Trace McDermott. Strong fast kid, playing for a weak coaching staff in a tough region. Doesn't get much pub but he is as good or better than Knoxville/Chattanooga talent!
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hell, get Chavis some tape on the kid....if he's on a bad team with poor coaching in a stout conf. no one will ever know who he is....
 
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Notre Dame went 1-2 against teams with winning records last year. Although the media seems to have proclaimed their "return to glory" I still say they have a lot to prove. I mean honestly, did it ever really look like Ohio State was not in control of that bowl game? Next year, if ND manages to topple a team better than the colossus that is Navy, I will hand them some credit.
 
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(kptvol @ May 5 said:
Notre Dame went 1-2 against teams with winning records last year. Although the media seems to have proclaimed their "return to glory" I still say they have a lot to prove. I mean honestly, did it ever really look like Ohio State was not in control of that bowl game? Next year, if ND manages to topple a team better than the colossus that is Navy, I will hand them some credit.
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they got a lot out of the USC game....even in a loss....and the score of the TN game made it look a lot worse than it may have actually been. and didn't they beat Michigan? on name value along, it looks a lot better than it may have actually been. and they have bonafied stars at skill positions....the qb and wr give faces to the team, and at ND, they will get air time.

all that said, you are correct, all the teams on thier schedule that were supposed to be tough, TN, Pitt etc...turned out to be creampuffs...

they probalby will have an outstanding offenes this coming season, but not sure if they can stop anybody. they may win a lot of 38 to 31 type games next season, but don't think they're NT winners next year.

But in any event, with all the hype they got last year, and JC comitting, there's no reason to think that ND isn't a "sexy" pick for top recruits out there. a trend that will likely continue. remember, perception is reality until proved otherwise.
 
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exactly....percepiton is they killed us...reality is game was in doubt in the 4th qtr. hardly domination.
 
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that is true it was alot closer than the score stated. is that because we were better or ND played a bad game. i think it was because ND had a off game. when the game was on the line they looked like a different team.
 
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(smokedog#3 @ May 5 said:
that is true it was alot closer than the score stated. is that because we were better or ND played a bad game. i think it was because ND had a off game. when the game was on the line they looked like a different team.
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turnovers on our part helped them out also....but there was one play in that game that broke our back.......the Defense did all they could all day long, gave up one big play, and we were done.

now, debating whether or not we were better than them, is kind of pointless, for the reason you stated. when they needed to make plays, they did, we didn't. that's usually the mark of a pretty good team...
 
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(jakez4ut @ May 5 said:
turnovers on our part helped them out also....but there was one play in that game that broke our back.......the Defense did all they could all day long, gave up one big play, and we were done.
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The punt return for the TD didn't help any either.
 
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i had blocked that play from memory....as i did with the one against UGA too...
 
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(kptvol @ May 4 said:
We need to make sure and land Golden Tate and Harrison Smith. It would be nice to get that DE from Alcoa, too. Losing elite instate prospects is disheartening.
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I agree that those three are big gets. I think it would be great to land 2 out of those 3 players. Smith is the one that I would like to get first out of those three and I think he is the one that is the most likely to sign. I would have to think we are the favorite for him, whether he says that or not. Tate is the second one I would pick. I think he is amazing with the ball in his hands. And, he is versatile. He doesn't seem to have grown up watching and being a fan of UTK. So, that means his location might not be much of a draw. He will be a tough pull. I actually think we might have a better shot at Sykes than it was originally thought. Again though just because he is from East Tennessee doesn't carry too much weight. He loves LSU, and of coarse with Warren at FSU they are a big draw. He has been on campus at UTK a number of times so we can hope that is a good sign. Fingers-crossed.
 
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