Remember back in August when Coach Jones

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said that this defense would only be as good as McCullers played. He was right. McCullers never lived up to the hype of fall camp. I know he was double teamed a lot of the time, but you gotta fight your way through them. Coach knew exactly what he was talking about.
 
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Butch said a lot of things.

He's our coach, and I am glad he is.

All in all, his first year went almost as well as could be expected.

Proud of you CBJ!!!
 
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Have you ever been wrong or thought something would be better than what it was Speedy? Guess what, you have, and that makes you human just like CBJ. He was trying to give our guys some confidence outside of the shower room unlike Dooley. Calm down, it will get better.
 
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I think this is where the losses of Saulsberry and Couch both hurt. Saulsberry was actually in talks to usurp McCullers. He was playing very well.

In the span of 3-4 days we lost both. You need good/great DT play to run the 4-3 well.
 
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ManningBerry#1 said:
Have you ever been wrong or thought something would be better than what it was Speedy? Guess what, you have, and that makes you human just like CBJ. He was trying to give our guys some confidence outside of the shower room unlike Dooley. Calm down, it will get better.
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Someone didn't even try to read what OP posted.

Par the course.
 
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SpeedyVOL said:
said that this defense would only be as good as McCullers played. He was right. McCullers never lived up to the hype of fall camp. I know he was double teamed a lot of the time, but you gotta fight your way through them. Coach knew exactly what he was talking about.
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I said this in a thread a couple of days ago. BJ was exactly right, our defense was as good as Mccullers, and he was pathetic.
 
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DC Vol said:
I think this is where the losses of Saulsberry and Couch both hurt. Saulsberry was actually in talks to usurp McCullers. He was playing very well.

In the span of 3-4 days we lost both. You need good/great DT play to run the 4-3 well.
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I knew losing those guys would hurt...but "man-o-man"...
 
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KingtUT said:
I said this in a thread a couple of days ago. BJ was exactly right, our defense was as good as Mccullers, and he was pathetic.
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Will be very interesting to see where he goes in the draft as there appears to be huge differences in opinions concerning his effectiveness.
 
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DC Vol said:
I think this is where the losses of Saulsberry and Couch both hurt. Saulsberry was actually in talks to usurp McCullers. He was playing very well.

In the span of 3-4 days we lost both. You need good/great DT play to run the 4-3 well.
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Will Saulsberry receive a medical redshirt?
 
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fade route said:
I forget what happened to saulsberry. Help?
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He had a knee injury in the Oregon game. Was supposed to be out 4-6 weeks from that point. According to utsports.com, he played in 4 games in 2013. Seeing that Oregon was UT's third game of the season, would that 4th game that he played in keep him from receiving a medical red-shirt? He was listed as having participated against Alabama but he accumulated no stats in that game.
 
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I don't want to bring politics into a football forum, BUT...

Why does everything have to be about assigning blame instead of building a solution? There are more problems than a defensive lineman. There are more problems than a running back, QB, offensive line, linebacker, or defensive back. I don't think there is much blame for the kicker this year at all. Solutions will come. Finding blame won't solve a damned thing!
 
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He was "dead on" with this one...I cant think of one dominant game by McCullers, he had a couple of nice plays here and there, but from what I saw, he was pushed around an awful lot. he had the coaches and even team mates trying to motivate him but it apparently never took. He was also right in that freshmen would play a huge role in the success this season, and he also proved most of us wrong by starting, and keeping Worley behind center, and proved once again that we as fans don't know as much as we think we do.
 
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Oh yay. Another blame a player and not the coaches thread. If CBJ felt McCullers was so ineffective, why didn't he make adjustments to compensate? And please, don't use Couch and Saulsberry being absent as another excuse. You adjust your schemes to the personnel you have. I saw little to no adjustment in our D schemes most of the year, so that falls on the coaching, not McCullers.

End of the day, it's a coach's job to work around ineffective players or weak positions. That's part of the big paycheck they get. When the team wins, the coach gets lauded. When the team loses, the coach gets the blame, and deservedly so. He makes the decisions as to which players see the field. If a player is doing poorly, he can pull that player off the field.

Stop looking for excuses and accept that CBJ is not a football god. He may still turn our program around, but he made his fair share of poor coaching decisions this year. Admit it and move on. That doesn't mean he's a bad coach, it just means he's a coach learning how the SEC works on the fly.
 
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You need a good rotation at DT against the schedule we had. McCullers and Hood would have benefitted by having Couch and Saulsberry added not only for the rotation, but also for the competition for the starting job. Clark and O'Brien were the only 2 competing for the jobs.

I don't believe McCullers played to his potential, but did anyone really expect him to?
 
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We basically swapped wins over SC and Vandy. Probably should have lost to SC and won against Vandy. IMO I enjoyed the win over a ranked SC more than I would have over Vandy.

Would have been the same; 5-7 at best. :ermm:
 
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Weezer said:
Oh yay. Another blame a player and not the coaches thread. If CBJ felt McCullers was so ineffective, why didn't he make adjustments to compensate? And please, don't use Couch and Saulsberry being absent as another excuse. You adjust your schemes to the personnel you have. I saw little to no adjustment in our D schemes most of the year, so that falls on the coaching, not McCullers.

End of the day, it's a coach's job to work around ineffective players or weak positions. That's part of the big paycheck they get. When the team wins, the coach gets lauded. When the team loses, the coach gets the blame, and deservedly so. He makes the decisions as to which players see the field. If a player is doing poorly, he can pull that player off the field.

Stop looking for excuses and accept that CBJ is not a football god. He may still turn our program around, but he made his fair share of poor coaching decisions this year. Admit it and move on. That doesn't mean he's a bad coach, it just means he's a coach learning how the SEC works on the fly.
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How can the coach make adjustments when his alternatives are so limited. His alternative was Clark. I guess you think he can wave his wand and something magic will appear. Cmon man.
 
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Weezer said:
End of the day, it's a coach's job to work around ineffective players or weak positions.

If a player is doing poorly, he can pull that player off the field.
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I feel ya. However, I've coached a team (no nothing on par with this level of course) with no d-line depth, and it is just a killer.

Your scheme runs out of juice with your undermanned squad. It's frustrating for everybody.

I just don't think we can lay this defense on coaching.....yet.
 
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Same players...different coaches...same results.
However, different players...same coaches...same results then we can talk staff changes.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
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How can the coach make adjustments when his alternatives are so limited. His alternative was Clark. I guess you think he can wave his wand and something magic will appear. Cmon man.
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Adjust the rest of the D. If the middle of the D line is that bad, scheme more support from your ends, your lbs, or your safeties. Throw the kitchen sink at them. Do whatever it takes.

CBJ gets paid millions to coach this team. Blame falls on him, not a player that's out there playing his heart out. Posters want to claim McCullers didn't give the effort. I call bs. He gave the effort, he just didn't fit this scheme. If he didn't give the effort, then Clark should have been out there.

McCullers was recruited to play the 3-4. He has the body type of a 3-4 DT. Expecting him to be a stud 4-3 DT was just ridiculous. Two totally different schemes with different expectations from the DT position. The young man gave his all for UT playing under a coaching staff that didn't recruit him in a system he wasn't recruited for. Posters need to stop trying to single out players to blame and accept it's the HC's job to put the pieces of the puzzle together.

Posters also need to realize placing the onus on Butch is not saying "fire Butch". He had a bad season. I don't need to hear excuses for why his season was bad. I'm not saying it's time for a new coach. If he strings together a run of bad seasons, then I might be saying time for a new coach, but that hasn't happenned yet. But in as much as he gets credit for the wins, Butch also gets the blame for the losses. It comes with the job title.

People need to decide whether they're Vol fans or coach fans. Vol fans don't seek out individual players to blame. The young men on the field are Vols. It's one thing to criticize their play in a particular game. It's another to blame them for an entire season.
 
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Volnado said:
Same players...different coaches...same results.
However, different players...same coaches...same results then we can talk staff changes.
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Valid arguement...if you forget how many young guys saw the field for the first time this year. Selective memory is not your friend.
 
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DC Vol said:
I think this is where the losses of Saulsberry and Couch both hurt. Saulsberry was actually in talks to usurp McCullers. He was playing very well.

In the span of 3-4 days we lost both. You need good/great DT play to run the 4-3 well.
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I think if we had Saulsberry, Couch, and Maggitt the entire season, we win one more. I know, I know, but I still think we get one more.
 
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