Replace R.Bush with J.Lewis

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With most teams out west all focused on the passing game, including the defenses, could you replace Reggie Bush with any good RB and gotten the same results or even close?
 
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Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Dec 15, 2005 1:22 PM
With most teams out west all focused on the passing game, including the defenses, could you replace Reggie Bush with any good RB and gotten the same results or even close?
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If you mean Jamal Lewis, you're talking about a guy who rushed for 2,000 yards in an NFL season. That's more than just a "good RB." I'm not sure if any current college backs would have done what Bush did. His versatility sets him apart. Another back, i.e. his teammate Lendale White, might have been wildly productive, but they would have done it in a different manner.
 
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J Lewis never won a heisman. He was a top 5 draft pick. Bush however will probably be the top pick. I'd have to say Bush is a little better at this point. J Lewis has been an awesome pro though, when he's not in jail.
 
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Bush can beat you in so many ways. He is a completely different back that Lewis, he is like a cross between M. Faulk and Barry Sanders.
 
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Have ever noticed that sometimes Bush is hardly ever touched when going through the line. He is 15 yards down field before someone lays a finger on him. What if he doesn't get that type of blocking.....is he still the Hesiman winner? :dunno:
 
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Originally posted by Big Orange Diesel@Dec 16, 2005 12:28 PM
Have ever noticed that sometimes Bush is hardly ever touched when going through the line.  He is 15 yards down field before someone lays a finger on him.  What if he doesn't get that type of blocking.....is he still the Hesiman winner? :dunno:
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No, but you can't start on that slippery slope, or else no one is deserving of the Heisman for one reason or another.
 
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Originally posted by sonofajohn@Dec 16, 2005 2:04 PM
No, but you can't start on that slippery slope, or else no one is deserving of the Heisman for one reason or another.
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What would be your statistics regarding this statement, Kind Sir?
 
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I guess all I'm saying is, can Bush be that RB that can run between the tackles, you know take the beating like Jamal Lewis can? Warrick Dunn can and Bush is a bigger back....so I guess only time will tell.
 
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My original question and point was can you replace Bush with other good/great/or whatever RB out there and still get the same results.

The PAC-10 is not a rushing conference. The focus is on passing and that focus would fold over to the defensive strategy as well. Does that mean that the rush defense in that conference is already handicapped? And does that mean that even the best RB's in other conferences could get the same, if not similar, results as Bush?
 
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The PAC-10 is not a rushing conference. The focus is on passing and that focus would fold over to the defensive strategy as well. Does that mean that the rush defense in that conference is already handicapped? And does that mean that even the best RB's in other conferences could get the same, if not similar, results as Bush?
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Yes, I believe that the best RB's in other conferences could get simular results. With the type of defensive schemes and players PAC-10 has it is highly possible.
 
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I don't think so. True his numbers may not be as great in the SEC, but he has an amazing ability to make people miss. I cannot think of another back in football with his ability. He is big enough to pound it if needed, he is not going to be stopped once he gets in the open field and he is very dangerous as a receiver. He is the complete package, and I am not going to discount his talent to "weak" PAC 10 defenses.
 
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Originally posted by oklavol@Dec 15, 2005 10:30 PM
J Lewis never won a heisman.  He was a top 5 draft pick.  Bush however will probably be the top pick.  I'd have to say Bush is a little better at this point.  J Lewis has been an awesome pro though, when he's not in jail.
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Lewis isn't even a top 10 back in the NFL, he had one good season and has faded away since then. he will be back to top 10 in a few years but he really isnt that good right now.
 
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Lewis isn't putting up good numbers because the ravens have a dismal offense this season. put him in the colts, falcons,broncos or any quality offense and you would see a big increase in his output. The ravens were good when lewis put 2000 up in a season. they are anything but good now.
 
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I don't think anyone here has said Bush wasn't good. I believe the consensus is that and good backwould look great when put in the same situation that Bush is in. Same as with Lienart. He is a good QB, but the team as a whole is great. Bush would have been nothing if he didn't have that whole offense around him. Look at D Williams at Memphis. take him and put him in the backfield at USC and everone will think he is God too. Not that D williams isn't great, but you get my point. Trade D williams' and R Bush's teams and I think we have a different Heisman winner.
 
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bush is good, but lets let him go pro. then we will see if he is the real deal. to many guys were studs in college, but in the pros they were matched out against the best of the best, and fail.
 
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Bush is great but no Jamal, Jamal=High school championship,college football championship, superbowl champs(rookie year).
 
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Originally posted by mattvols@Dec 16, 2005 12:49 PM
Lewis isn't even a top 10 back in the NFL, he had one good season and has faded away since then. he will be back to top 10 in a few years but he really isnt that good right now.
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The ravens have no qb! No passing game.!
 
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Originally posted by utfantilidie@Dec 17, 2005 1:00 PM
Bush is great but no Jamal, Jamal=High school championship,college football championship, superbowl champs(rookie year).
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I would say when it comes to all around skill Jamal is no Bush. I am a huge Lewis fan, but Bush can beat you in a lot more ways than J Lewis. He is a threat to score no matter where you line him up and what you run.
 
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Originally posted by mattvols@Dec 16, 2005 12:49 PM
Lewis isn't even a top 10 back in the NFL, he had one good season and has faded away since then. he will be back to top 10 in a few years but he really isnt that good right now.
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One good season? I guess rushing for 1,000+ on a Super Bowl champion isn't a good season.
 
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Offensive linemen get no credit. With out a good line your pass and rush is done. But yet all you here is how good the RB or QB is.
 
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Originally posted by ColtsFan87@Dec 17, 2005 2:59 PM
Offensive linemen get no credit. With out a good line your pass and rush is done. But yet all you here is how good the RB or QB is.
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Right on, let's start giving the MVP to offensive linemen.
 
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Originally posted by tidwell@Dec 17, 2005 5:21 PM
Right on, let's start giving the MVP to offensive linemen.
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Agreed. Case in point...Baltimore's offensive line is terrible this year and as a result Lewis is not having a good year.
 
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