Republican Debate Impressions?

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McCain reminded me of the things I've liked about him - conviction tempered with realism. He may have kept his campaign alive.

Guiliani was as expected -- nothing surprising but did have a good line that none of the 3 leaders in the Dem party ever ran a city, state or business.

Ron Paul is good entertainment but lives in a dream world.

Romney is becoming more scary to me - he reminds me of a light-weight Bill Clinton.

Brownback is wasting everyone's time.

Huckabee is a likable guy and won some points with me but he's probably not ready for prime time.

Tancredo has a lot of conviction but is probably too extreme.

Hunter actually talked about policies in concrete terms but is likely too extreme as well.
 
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Agree with some additions:Giuliani needs to back off the NYC talk and tell us more what he would do as President. Accomplishments speak for themselves. We don't need to be reminded of them on every answer.Romney did more dodging answers than anyone I've ever seen. He had good statements but they were not answers to the questions asked.McCain definitely is back to 2000 form. I think this was his rebound. We'll see if it was enough to deter Fred's entry. Of the early states he fares best in NH as far as polls (still far back) but this performance could make him a comeback senior. He gave the most concise answers and faced the issues head on. I think he won this. Frank Luntz's focus group had it right when one said McCain's obviously the most credentialled due to everyone quoting him. Huckabee continues to look very statesmanlike. He's doing the best job looking for the VP slot. Although he's not gunning for it, he has by far made himself on the short list.Paul just sounds like the activist kid from high school who whined and broke up pep rallies and gave some far out speech that had nothing to do with what was going on. He just sounds like a muppet.With Fred dissing the debate and NH itself it will be interesting to see what the NH polls show either late this week or early next week.
 
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CSpinDizzy- YOUR LOST!!!
Fred will win the nomination by a landslide and eat Hillary Clinton's lunch. Sorry to break that to you, but it will soon be reality. Ronald reagan #2
 
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smoke_em06 said:
CSpinDizzy- YOUR LOST!!!
Fred will win the nomination by a landslide and eat Hillary Clinton's lunch. Sorry to break that to you, but it will soon be reality. Ronald reagan #2
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You've been in Greene County around all those Repubs too long. No question FDT will carry Tenn. but if you get out and about more you'd know that much of the country is tired of the GOP right now. The question is, whether there's enough that's tired. But make no mistake: it will be close.:peace2:
 
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No matter who the GOP candidate is, it's the Democrat's (most likely Hillary) election to lose.
 
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After 2000 and 2004, don't underestimate the Democratic Party's ability to choose the wrong candidate and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
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GAVol said:
After 2000 and 2004, don't underestimate the Democratic Party's ability to choose the wrong candidate and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Good point, but that would have to mean that Hillary is not the candidate. She just can't lose. Bill is on her side and with a great pick as VP, hopefully Obama, then the Democrats will be unstoppable.
 
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Hillary probably has less to overcome in the primary and more to overcome in the general election than any other candidate on either side.
 
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VOLatile said:
Good point, but that would have to mean that Hillary is not the candidate. She just can't lose. Bill is on her side and with a great pick as VP, hopefully Obama, then the Democrats will be unstoppable.
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Was that sarcastic re: Obama?
 
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smoke_em06 said:
CSpinDizzy- YOUR LOST!!!
Fred will win the nomination by a landslide and eat Hillary Clinton's lunch. Sorry to break that to you, but it will soon be reality. Ronald reagan #2
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Guess I am. I just don't buy into the kool aid where a candidate who has not even announced his positions can somehow sweep the nomination and then win the Presidency. Also not buying into the Reagan line. Reagan had Charisma and experience in the executive. Fred's a trial lawyer, lobbyist, and Hollywod actor. Far cry from Reagan or even Presidential material.
 
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I'm not sure how Fred overcomes the others with the primaries. Right now the only ones Fred is leading or close in are southern states that carry little delegate counts. Romney's leading the two initial ones and Rudy's leading in the ones with highest delegate count.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Guess I am. I just don't buy into the kool aid where a candidate who has not even announced his positions can somehow sweep the nomination and then win the Presidency. Also not buying into the Reagan line. Reagan had Charisma and experience in the executive. Fred's a trial lawyer, lobbyist, and Hollywod actor. Far cry from Reagan or even Presidential material.
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This is sad but I am agreeing with Frenchy. Fred is no Reagan. Reagan washed dishes to make his way to California. He really didn't have money until he became the GE spokesman. When Reagan spoke it was a style based in principles not lawyer talk. Reagan had far less skeletons in his closet. The list goes own. I do not find them comparable other than both being actors. When Reagan spoke he inspired hope to many not just conservatives. He was anti-Bush Republican if we can recall, He defeated Senior Bush. There is sadly only one Reagan. :cray:
 
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How dare you question Fred!

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GAVol said:
Hillary probably has less to overcome in the primary and more to overcome in the general election than any other candidate on either side.
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Most middle of the road people lean republican and don't vote in the democratic party primary. So you get a very left leaning nominee. The best thing they could do is allow more people from the center to vote in their primary.
 
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Fred hasn't offered any interesting solutions to the problems facing the country. He's been disappointing on TV when I've listened to him.

I think it would be 4 more years of waiting for someone to get elected who isn't afraid to address the big problems facing the country.

Having 2 sons who work as lobbyists makes me wonder where his true loyalty would lie if he was elected.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Maybe I missed something, but aren't they all politicians?
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They are.

But when I've listened to Romney or Ron Paul I feel encouraged. Romney seems very sharp, with good judgement. Ron Paul thinks outside the box, he's innovative and has fresh ideas.

I didn't have the same impression of Fred. Fred is smart but he has not impressed me with how he would address the problems facing the country.
 
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oklavol said:
They are.

But when I've listened to Romney or Ron Paul I feel encouraged. Romney seems very sharp, with a good head on his shoulders. Ron Paul thinks outside the box, he's innovative and has fresh ideas.

I didn't have the same impression of Fred.
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They are all bums just like the democrats.

:thumbsup:
 
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I listened to a clip from the web of Fred on Laura Ingraham's show. Snore fest. This guy just has no vision. In comparing him to Reagan, I think Fred missed out on the positive and uplifting message of the shining city on a hill. His message is all about how doom and gloom we see and how this current course (thanks Dubya) is leading us down a dark path. He offers nothing hopeful or gives nothing symbolic of Reagan's inspiring speeches.
 
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