Returning production

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TAF said:
Why does this just look like one of those "you can make #s tell ANY story you WANT!"
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Is sorta interesting to think about. Not so much as a plus for us, but maybe a big question mark for the likes of Ga. and Bama's ability to get these 5*s ready to preform to the standard they have experienced in the past. Will put a lot of pressure on the new coaches on these staffs to keep the ball rolling the straight and narrow demanded by the head man of these programs.
 
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What that doesn't say is many of Ga's and Bama's 5* second string played a bunch of snaps this past season. They just didn't all start the game.
 
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I think it’s been pretty well established that Bama and Georgia have superior talent on defense and Tennessee, with maybe the exception of DL, isn’t quite there yet. Experience is nice to have but top talent is a massive advantage. Helps when your program lands the top recruits every year.
 
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Vol524 said:
What that doesn't say is many of Ga's and Bama's 5* second string played a bunch of snaps this past season. They just didn't all start the game.
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It's not about starts. It's about who played at least 150 snaps.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
Look at the bottom 2 and that's all you need to know about the validity of this information.
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Alabama and UGA doesn't have returning players because they play junior and seniors and send them to the NFL. They are going to replace talent easier. This doesn't change the validity of the information. Playing time with good cosching should lead to improved results on the field.
 
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VolInDayton said:
Alabama and UGA doesn't have returning players because they play junior and seniors and send them to the NFL. They are going to replace talent easier. This doesn't change the validity of the information. Playing time with good cosching should lead to improved results on the field.
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The point the thread was trying to make was more returning players would represent success. I stated look at the bottom 2 because for them this list doesn’t mean $h!t!
 
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Vol524 said:
What that doesn't say is many of Ga's and Bama's 5* second string played a bunch of snaps this past season. They just didn't all start the game.
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It's just players that played 150+ snaps. Presumably if they were playing as much as you are suggesting, then they should be included (if they had a 60+ PFF grade). Either they didn't play that much, or they weren't very good.
 
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VolInDayton said:
Alabama and UGA doesn't have returning players because they play junior and seniors and send them to the NFL. They are going to replace talent easier. This doesn't change the validity of the information. Playing time with good cosching should lead to improved results on the field.
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Yea you totally missed his point.
 
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volfanhill said:
Yea you totally missed his point.
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I get his point. I think the talent we returned was either bad or the coaching was bad. So if we see the same talent and same coaches on the field, I expect similar results. If you aren't replacing draft picks with future draft picks. Replacing starters can clear to issues (UF, USC, UK, Vandy).

UT and LSU were top of the top teams on top of the list UGA and Bama were two of the top teams on the bottom of theist. If anything I think Bama and UGA were outliers because of the level they recruit at.
 
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I think we continue to see a jump… our defense got significantly better in 2022 overall we still have much to improve but the culture is set the results will take care of them selves… secondary will continue to improve I think banks will know these players better in year 3 as well and we will continue to be more aggressive which is how we thrive… the Clemson game was a turning point going into year 3 with a lot of experience on defense and offense we will be a very tough team.
 
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