review after the false start...

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thevorlon

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Is anyone else still a little put off by the official review after the false start penalty had been called and enforced?
 
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Exactly. The penalty was on the next play. How many plays can you go back and decide to do a review? I've never seen that before.
 
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No. Only a snap can prevent a review. False starts are pre-snap penalties, so there was no next play.

I see the point where people want to negate the penalty because of that, and I assume that's what the long discussion was about.

Sorry for the edits. My fingers are faster than my thoughts tonight.
 
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I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before. It was unbelievably strange. I'm glad it happened in this game and not in a game with quality SEC opponents. Something like that could hamper momentum big time.
 
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The really annoying part was that they let the penalty stand. If you're going to go back 2 plays to review one then the next one, even if a penalty, should not count.

Sometimes I get the feeling they make the rules up as they go.
 
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I guess the question then becomes what happens to the False Start penalty if the play had been overturned. I guess the Aggies get the ball with 1st and 5 to go. Or does the penalty get negated?

The rule is the penalty only gets negated if you are Alabama.
 
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Vol in Tears said:
No. Only a snap can prevent a review. False starts are pre-snap penalties, so there was no next play.

I see the point where people want to negate the penalty because of that, and I assume that's what the long discussion was about.

Sorry for the edits. My fingers are faster than my thoughts tonight.
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100% correct. False start is presnap. Thus play hasn't occurred and review is still available.
 
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SigSaurP228 said:
I guess the question then becomes what happens to the False Start penalty if the play had been overturned. I guess the Aggies get the ball with 1st and 5 to go.
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This was my thought as well, if the play is overturned would that not then make the penalty non-exististant as play should not have continued?
 
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Vol in Tears said:
No. Only a snap can prevent a review. False starts are pre-snap penalties, so there was no next play.

I see the point where people want to negate the penalty because of that, and I assume that's what the long discussion was about.

Sorry for the edits. My fingers are faster than my thoughts tonight.
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thanx for your response , i was questioning this but you just cleared it up for me, rules say before the ball was snapped..the ball was never snapped.
 
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SigSaurP228 said:
I guess the question then becomes what happens to the False Start penalty if the play had been overturned. I guess the Aggies get the ball with 1st and 5 to go. Or does the penalty get negated?

The rule is the penalty only gets negated if you are Alabama.
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This is a good question. The penalty gets enforced if the play isn't overturned, but doesnt if it does get overturned?

I really wonder what the rule is. It seems quirky to me.
 
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Blood Runs Orange said:
The really annoying part was that they let the penalty stand. If you're going to go back 2 plays to review one then the next one, even if a penalty, should not count.

Sometimes I get the feeling they make the rules up as they go.
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My thoughts exactly! Never have seen that & we not only got hosed on replay (what else is new!) but we were still penalized 5 yds. And as usual, no explanation by the good ole boys crew.
 
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Rocky Goode was talking about this yesterday and as has been said on here, a false start is a presnap penalty and the ball is never legally put in play.

As far as whether the penalty would have stood had they ruled it a turnover, it would not as possession would have changed teams.

Confusing for sure.
 
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Officials blew that one. They can review a play up until thge first legal snap; therefore they were correct in granting the review. Were they messed up is in enforcing the penalty. According to the head of officials, the penalty should not have been enforced once they granted the review.
 
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thevorlon said:
Is anyone else still a little put off by the official review after the false start penalty had been called and enforced?
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I was more concerned over the length of the replay. That was one of the longer ones I sat through if I recall correctly. On top of that, the fans got so bored, they started the wave. :gun:
 
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Dr Dread said:
Officials blew that one. They can review a play up until thge first legal snap; therefore they were correct in granting the review. Were they messed up is in enforcing the penalty. According to the head of officials, the penalty should not have been enforced once they granted the review.
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According to Rocky Goode, head of replay officials, they got the call correct as the false start was not the actual beginning of the next play. The penalty occurred before the ball was snapped and since UT retained possession the penalty was sustained.

It's a bit dumb, I know.
 
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