Richmond advances to semi-finals with win over defending champs Appalachian State

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Richmond is 11-3 and in the semi-finals for the 2nd year in a row. I wonder how long Clawson cried after watching that game?

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/12/06/ap5789298.html

Josh Vaughan ran for 133 yards and three touchdowns to help Richmond upset defending national champion Appalachian State 33-13 on Saturday in the Football Championship Subdivision playoffs.
The Spiders (11-3) advanced to the FCS - formerly Division 1-AA - semifinals for the second consecutive year. Richmond will face Northern Iowa, which defeated New Hampshire 36-34 on Saturday night, next Friday or Saturday.
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well that's Clawson's team there. I'm sure he'll make a fine head coach somewhere.
 
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Its not surprising that Richmond is good at the 1-AA level. JMU, who is also from for Va is the number one team in 1-AA. Because there are only two major college programs in Va, the level of player the 1-AA teams like JMU, Richmond, William and Mary etc. in the state can get is much better than other states where there are smaller 1-A programs, for instance, states like Tennessee (which has 4 1-A programs and a smaller population and recruiting pool than Virginia) has much more trouble being competitive at the 1-AA level with the elite teams. The same is true in states like Alabama and Louisiana as well where there are more than 2 major college programs and have populations smaller than VA. Georgia is another state that only has the two major programs, and Georgia Southern benefited from this with Paul Johnson as they were able to bring in players that in other states would likely have played for Troy, MTSU, UAB, La Tech etc... Its weird that a state like Utah with a low population has 3 1-A programs and big states (population and recruit wise) like Virginia, Georgia, Illinois only have 2 major programs.
 
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It's amazing how they are a better team now that he is gone. I realize that this is the team he built, but some other coach has taken them to the title game.
 
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CardassianVol said:
It's amazing how they are a better team now that he is gone. I realize that this is the team he built, but some other coach has taken them to the title game.
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yeah, some other coach took the players that Clawson seasoned, recruited and taught to the title game. There is no possible way you could prove that Clawson wouldn't have Richmond in the same spot they are in now had he still been there.
 
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hatvol96 said:
For some reason, the name Larry Coker comes to mind.
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there are some other names you could throw out as well. London may very well turn out to be a good coach, but this isn't his team.

Just makes you wonder what Clawson could have done with a few years and a HC that would have let him fully run the show.
 
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CardassianVol said:
And UT almost won the SEC last year. We had a whole staff of almosts.
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Granted it was a long time ago, but Fulmer won two SEC Titles and a NC. Clawson built Richmond and got them that far before trying his hands at bigger things. Then TFHFCATUTK tied his hands together and that was that. Your statement doesn't have a whole lot of merit.
 
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GoBigOrange, the only flaw I see in your statement is the fact that Richmond has a LOT of out of staters on their roster.
 
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volfanbill said:
Granted it was a long time ago, but Fulmer won two SEC Titles and a NC. Clawson built Richmond and got them that far before trying his hands at bigger things. Then TFHFCATUTK tied his hands together and that was that. Your statement doesn't have a whole lot of merit.
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I wasn't looking for a golden seal of approval, but over the last decade Fulmer became the coach who couldn't win the big games. Clawson has never taken his team further than the semifinals in the FCS and he is completely unproven in the FBS. Now that the season is over I have begun to feel a little sorry for him, but I won't leave him blameless. Bowling Green will be interesting to watch out of pure curiosity. I wish him luck.
 
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CardassianVol said:
It's amazing how they are a better team now that he is gone. I realize that this is the team he built, but some other coach has taken them to the title game.
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Just like Peyton Manning handing the reins to Tee Martin.

Oddly enough, that doesn't diminish Manning one bit.
 
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CardassianVol said:
It is a fact. I am not shocked that you didn't read further for my opinion on Clawson.
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It is a fact - although you act like his team wasn't even in the playoffs last year. But you know what's also a fact? Richmond's program was utter crap before Clawson took over and built that team. Another fact - teams get better when they're older and more mature.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
It is a fact - although you act like his team wasn't even in the playoffs last year. But you know what's also a fact? Richmond's program was utter crap before Clawson took over and built that team. Another fact - teams get better when they're older and more mature.
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And your point is? I am aware of all of that. I think you took my statement too far.
 
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My point is he's a good coach like it or not. He was just put in a horrible situation with a head coach that was well passed his prime and needed results immediately.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
My point is he's a good coach like it or not. He was just put in a horrible situation with a head coach that was well passed his prime and needed results immediately.
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Boo hoo. Poor Dave. Nothing was his fault. I would LIKE to see him prove himself at the FBS level before he is declared a mastermind.
 
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