Ron paul wins NY Straw Poll

[Rasputin_Vol]

hmy:

Ron Paul Wins Straw Vote in New York - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog

 

[MG1968]

out of 61 people who voted in the straw pole, 26 voted for Paul. I'm no math genius, but that means 35 people voted against him.

 

[GAVol]

What do you do with a straw pole?

 

[allvol123]

Is this a Hee Haw joke?

 

[coffeevol]

The more I hear on Ron Paul the more I like him.

 

[MG1968]

The more I hear on Ron Paul the more I like him.

so sayeth the one-time Fred Thompson supporter.

 

[GAVol]

The more I hear on Ron Paul the more I like him.

Has Fred ceased being the greatest thing since sliced bread?

 

[utstu]

out of 61 people who voted in the straw pole, 26 voted for Paul. I'm no math genius, but that means 35 people voted against him.

You don't have to get every vote to win in a poll.

 

[MG1968]

You don't have to get every vote to win in a poll.

yeah. My attempts at sarcasm are oft misinterpreted, thanks for clarifying for anybody planning to take my literalness literally.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

out of 61 people who voted in the straw pole, 26 voted for Paul. I'm no math genius, but that means 35 people voted against him.

He got 42% of the votes in an 8 man race. I could just as easily say that it took 7 candidates to equal or surpass the vote totals for Paul.

What do you have against Ron Paul?

 

[lacrossepro70]

out of 61 people who voted in the straw pole, 26 voted for Paul. I'm no math genius, but that means 35 people voted against him.

That's because there are several other candidates... :crazy:

 

[MG1968]

He got 42% of the votes in an 8 man race. I could just as easily say that it took 7 candidates to equal or surpass the vote totals for Paul.

What do you have against Ron Paul?

again, I understand what the numbers mean, lighten up.

My problem with Ron Paul is that he doesn't seem to want to take seriously the threat posed by Islamic fascism. He adheres pretty faithfully to the libertarian party platform of non-interventionist military policy, which I don't agree with.

That's because there are several other candidates... :crazy:

again, see my post above.

 

[GAVol]

My problem with Ron Paul is that he doesn't seem to want to take seriously the threat posed by Islamic fascism. He adheres pretty faithfully to the libertarian party platform of non-interventionist military policy, which I don't agree with.

My sentiments exactly.

I still want to know though what Ron Paul is doing with that straw pole that TVA says he won.

 

[rwemyss]

My problem with Ron Paul is that he doesn't seem to want to take seriously the threat posed by Islamic fascism. He adheres pretty faithfully to the libertarian party platform of non-interventionist military policy, which I don't agree with.

My sentiments exactly.

I still want to know though what Ron Paul is doing with that straw pole that TVA says he won.

You guys sound exactly like Neal. :lol:

(Boortz for those who don't know)

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

My problem with Ron Paul is that he doesn't seem to want to take seriously the threat posed by Islamic fascism. He adheres pretty faithfully to the libertarian party platform of non-interventionist military policy, which I don't agree with.

He supports the use of Letters of Marque and Reprisal...

A letter of marque is an official warrant or commission from a government authorizing the designated agent to search, seize, or destroy specified assets or personnel belonging to a party which has committed some offense under the laws of nations against the assets or citizens of the issuing nation, and has usually been used to authorize private parties to raid and capture merchant shipping of an enemy nation.

The formal statement of the warrant is to authorize the agent to pass beyond the borders of the nation ("marque" or frontier), and there to search, seize, or destroy an enemy's vessel or fleet not necessarily a nation. It is considered a retaliatory measure short of a full declaration of war, and, by maintaining a rough proportionality, has been intended to justify the action to other nations, who might otherwise consider it an act of war or piracy. As with a domestic search, arrest, seizure, or death warrant, to be considered lawful it needs to have a certain degree of specificity to ensure that the agent does not exceed one's authority and the intent of the issuing authority.

The issue of Marque and Reprisal was raised before Congress by Rep. Ron Paul of Texas after the September 11, 2001 attacks, and again on July 21, 2007. Paul, defining the attacks as an act of "air piracy," introduced the Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001, which would have granted the president the authority to use Letters of Marque and Reprisal against the specific terrorists, instead of warring against a foreign state. Paul compared the terrorists to pirates in that they are difficult to fight by traditional military means.

 

[MG1968]

What that sounds like is that Ron Paul looks at terrorism as a law enforcement issue.

Authorized Agent: Uhh, excuse me, Mr. Ahmadenijad? I have a warrant here for the search, seizure and detention of Ali Akbu Mujahadeen Skyhook Johnson, along with all of his financial assets and chemical weapons inventory. The warrant also seeks to destroy any non financial assets such as guns, artillery pieces, etc. May we come in to Iran and execute this warrant?

Ahmadenijad: "no, go away"

then what? Ron Paul does realize that agents entering a country against that country's wishes is a de facto declaration of war?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

What that sounds like is that Ron Paul looks at terrorism as a law enforcement issue.

There is nothing about Letters of Marquee and Reprisal that resembles an action of law enforcement.

Have you seen the movie "Munich"? You would have a situation like that where the Isrealis hunted down the terrorists involved with that.

 

[CSpindizzy]

Straw polls are worthless. These events are usually open to any who pay for the ticket. Campaigns buy blocks of tickets and hand out to their supporters to show up and vote. Most stack the decks just to get some earned media.

 

[shastacles]

Has Fred ceased being the greatest thing since sliced bread?

More importantly, has Fred completed a sentence in a timely fashion during a debate?

 

[shastacles]

Straw polls are worthless. These events are usually open to any who pay for the ticket. Campaigns buy blocks of tickets and hand out to their supporters to show up and vote. Most stack the decks just to get some earned media.

Thats true, but it just so happens that Ron Pauls campaign did not purchase any tickets, and was the only campaign to do that.

 

[CSpindizzy]

Let's see. Only 61 people voted. And you had to be a dues paying member to vote. You had to be a dues paying member of the NY Young Republicans Club. Big turnout. And 26 of 61? Not too hard to stack that deck.

 

[MG1968]

Thats true, but it just so happens that Ron Pauls campaign did not purchase any tickets, and was the only campaign to do that.

were they too busy hacking the other candidates' websites again?

 

[CSpindizzy]

I know one thing...the phone companies love the text polls. I bet it's really phone company employees secretly pushing Paul. There's a new scandal...."Big Telephone Backs Paul"