Rudy Endorses McCain

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You could say 'sinking ship' about the GOP in general. McCain is sinking but far from being out. His numbers are generally above Mitt's still and he's still in the game as far as anyone else is concerned.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
You could say 'sinking ship' about the GOP in general. McCain is sinking but far from being out. His numbers are generally above Mitt's still and he's still in the game as far as anyone else is concerned.
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True. The thing is though, most of the people that have followed McCain over the years know he is a flip-flopping extrodonaire. That right there is one of the reasons he ship really never left the port but they did swim around it for show.
 
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I think he's said some different things on abortion and religion that lead me to believe that he's not exactly a social conservative.

...and McCain-Feingold wasn't exactly a conservative move.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
When was that? On what issues?
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In 2000, he called key religious leaders "agents of intolerance" and after he was confronted with it he said "I must not and will not retract anything that I said in that speech at Virginia Beach. It was carefully crafted, it was carefully thought out."

He didn't support a federal gay marriage ban but now says he does.

He told the San Fran Chronicle in 1999 he was in favor of abortions, but now says he would support the South Dakota ban on abortions.

There's a bunch more if you want to research it but those are the main ones.
 
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In other words you're saying McCain is no different than any of the others running right?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
In 2000, he called key religious leaders "agents of intolerance" and after he was confronted with it he said "I must not and will not retract anything that I said in that speech at Virginia Beach. It was carefully crafted, it was carefully thought out."
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how exactly is that flip-flopping?
 
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'Sided' with them? I doubt Rudy is 'siding' with them even though he's met with them.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
'Sided' with them? I doubt Rudy is 'siding' with them even though he's met with them.
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Exactly. I don't have a problem with anyone siding with anyone. I have a problem with denouncing them, then turning around and proclaiming you are pro-christian just before the election.
 
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Now how does proclaiming yourself pro-Christian imply they are siding with Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell? I'm sure there are millions of Christians who will say they have nothing to do with either.
 
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GAVol said:
I think he's said some different things on abortion and religion that lead me to believe that he's not exactly a social conservative.

...and McCain-Feingold wasn't exactly a conservative move.
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There was considerable thought on him becoming John Kerry's running mate in '04. He and Kerry have always been big buddies and with his somewhat moderate social stances and his general dislike for Bush, it almost became a reality. and guess what.....that ticket would have won.

I think the day might be coming where we will have a ticket with one candidate being a dem and one a republican.

Another side note....you read it hear second....I saw it in the paper the other day. If, and its a big if, Obama gets the dem nomination, look for him to choose Bill Clinton as his running mate. The law does not prohibit a former president from being a vice president. I know it sounds far fetched, but do not think it won't be considered.
 
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truefan said:
There was considerable thought on him becoming John Kerry's running mate in '04. He and Kerry have always been big buddies and with his somewhat moderate social stances and his general dislike for Bush, it almost became a reality. and guess what.....that ticket would have won.

I think the day might be coming where we will have a ticket with one candidate being a dem and one a republican.

Another side note....you read it hear second....I saw it in the paper the other day. If, and its a big if, Obama gets the dem nomination, look for him to choose Bill Clinton as his running mate. The law does not prohibit a former president from being a vice president. I know it sounds far fetched, but do not think it won't be considered.
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I don't even want to touch this post. My mind could have me go alot of different ways on this one :birgits_giggle:.
 
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