Saban should have stuck with Hurts!!

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PulaskiVolFan said:
I didn't say he wasn't ready, I said he should have waited his turn. Bama would have been better off and Tua would have been better off. The only person that benefitted running Hurts off for Tua was Hurts. Young sat behind Montana and it worked out pretty good for both of them as well as the 49ers.
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Yeah that wasnt happening.

Bama wasnt keeping Tua until he had waited his turn behind Hurts and Bama wasnt beating UGA that nite with Hurts finishing the game.
 
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scottvols69 said:
My issue with the whole thing is Tua wanted to come out, the on field announcer even said he was thanking the team as such on the previous drive. Saban wanted him back in and Tua got injured, saban didnt even go out on the field for several minutes.
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That's an interesting twist to the story. I didnt see the game.

Is there a link for comments that said Tua wanted out before that series?

I'm not sure him "thanking the team" on the previous drive is concrete evidence. That happens pretty often on most teams.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I didn't say he wasn't ready, I said he should have waited his turn. Bama would have been better off and Tua would have been better off. The only person that benefitted running Hurts off for Tua was Hurts. Young sat behind Montana and it worked out pretty good for both of them as well as the 49ers.
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So, you think that Saban should have just accepted certain defeat in the CFPNCG against UGA and played Hurts in the 2nd half? Just so Tua could "wait his turn"?
 
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BeecherVol said:
So you tell me he didnt rehab but then link a video that explains and shows him rehabbing after the first surgery.

You didnt have a point before, was this a concession?
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The video clearly states that they drilled holes in his bones and inserted wires so he could perform 'while healing'.

He wasn't healed. They didn't rehab his ankle. They drilled holes in his bones and inserted wires. For a damned ankle sprain.

BeecherVol said:
Jimminy Hyams?
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Sports? You think I'm saying I write on some blog about football?

I'm an actual writer. I'm certainly not a fricken sports journalist.
 
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DoyleMcOrange said:
The video clearly states that they drilled holes in his bones and inserted wires so he could perform 'while healing'.

He wasn't healed. They didn't rehab his ankle. They drilled holes in his bones and inserted wires. For a damned ankle sprain.



Sports? You think I'm saying I write on some blog about football?

I'm an actual writer.
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Yes, I watched that video and another that explained the procedure. No one is refuting that process.


So in the video you provided where the doctors are speaking to his rehab after the procedure and they show him actually rehabbing, he didnt rehab it?

Oh I dont know, dont really care. It was a joke.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Yes, I watched that video and another that explained the procedure. No one is refuting that process.


So in the video you provided where the doctors are speaking to his rehab after the procedure and they show him actually rehabbing, he didnt rehab it?

Oh I dont know, dont really care. It was a joke.
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I never said he didn't do some work on it. But to say 'he rehabbed it' means he finished rehabilitation for the injury. Not that he did half of the rehab, or a fourth of rehab.

20 days is not enough time to rehab a high ankle sprain and heal from having four holes drilled through your bones. They did the procedure so he could play without rehabbing it. Without letting the ankle heal (usually 6 weeks at an absolute minimum for a high ankle sprain).

ffs.
 
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DoyleMcOrange said:
I never said he didn't do some work on it. But to say 'he rehabbed it' means he finished rehabilitation for the injury. Not that he did half of the rehab, or a fourth of rehab.

20 days is not enough time to rehab a high ankle sprain and heal from having four holes drilled through your bones. They did the procedure so he could play without rehabbing it. Without letting the ankle heal (usually 6 weeks at an absolute minimum for a high ankle sprain).

ffs.
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I really think your case would be more effectively made had Tua reinjured that ankle.
 
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Those kinds of operations are for folks who are so badly injured that they may never walk again, or will have a horrible limp for the rest of their lives, etc.

Those operations should not be used so a fricken student athlete can get back onto the field in 3 weeks instead of 6.

That's barbaric. You're treating them like racehorses.

Just let the damned thing heal.
 
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DoyleMcOrange said:
Those kinds of operations are for folks who are so badly injured that they may never walk again, or will have a horrible limp for the rest of their lives, etc.

Those operations should not be used so a fricken student athlete can get back onto the field in 3 weeks instead of 6.

That's barbaric. You're treating them like racehorses.

Just let the damned thing heal.
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So, again, is it your position that you know better than the doctors on the Andrews team?
 
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lmao

Don't ever say you give a crap about these kids. It's obvious you don't.

Just like Nick! ;-)

p.s. His ankle certainly has time to heal now.
 
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bamawriter said:
So, you think that Saban should have just accepted certain defeat in the CFPNCG against UGA and played Hurts in the 2nd half? Just so Tua could "wait his turn"?
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Never said that either, playing him in the NC game as a Fr was smart and worked that day in that circumstance but it hasn't worked since as far as championships go AND Alabama is in a terrible spot right now at QB while Hurts is out chasing championships in Oklahoma. Saban going all in on Tua was a mistake I believe and because he did Alabama has lost their identity a bit.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Never said that either, playing him in the NC game as a Fr was smart and worked that day in that circumstance but it hasn't worked since as far as championships go AND Alabama is in a terrible spot right now at QB while Hurts is out chasing championships in Oklahoma. Saban going all in on Tua was a mistake I believe and because he did Alabama has lost their identity a bit.
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So, after seeing Hurts play in 2016 and '17, and then seeing Tua play in '18 and '19, your conclusion is that Tua wasn't ready, and Bama's offense would have been better with Hurts?
 
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bamawriter said:
So, after seeing Hurts play in 2016 and '17, and then seeing Tua play in '18 and '19, you're conclusion is that Tua wasn't ready, and Bama's offense would have been better with Hurts?
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I'm saying that turning your back on your team leader in Hurts for a hotshot freshman that forces you to change your team identity was a stupid move by Saban.
 
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DoyleMcOrange said:
I never said he didn't do some work on it. But to say 'he rehabbed it' means he finished rehabilitation for the injury. Not that he did half of the rehab, or a fourth of rehab.

20 days is not enough time to rehab a high ankle sprain and heal from having four holes drilled through your bones. They did the procedure so he could play without rehabbing it. Without letting the ankle heal (usually 6 weeks at an absolute minimum for a high ankle sprain).

ffs.
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No. You said.
They didn't rehab his ankle.
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You didnt say,
He did some rehab but not enough to your liking
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It wasnt too long ago a torn acl meant your career was over.
Maybe we should go back to medical procedures from the 80s. Yay!
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I'm saying that turning your back on your team leader in Hurts for a hotshot freshman that forces you to change your team identity was a stupid move by Saban.
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You are all over the place here. You just got done saying benching Hurts for true freshman Tua against UGA was the right call, but now you're saying the opposite.
 
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bamawriter said:
You are all over the place here. You just got done saying benching Hurts for true freshman Tua against UGA was the right call, but now you're saying the opposite.
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I said it was the right move for that game at that time under those circumstances. I don't think Hurts should have lost his job over 1 bad half of play and I don't think the team should have changed their identity based on the play of Tua in that one half. Bottom line, Alabama is a weaker football team today without Hurts as they are with Tua. Is Tua's overall record even any better than Hurts?
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I said it was the right move for that game at that time under those circumstances. I don't think Hurts should have lost his job over 1 bad half of play and I don't think the team should have changed their identity based on the play of Tua in that one half. Bottom line, Alabama is a weaker football team today without Hurts as they are with Tua. Is Tua's overall record even any better than Hurts?
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Would Bama be a better team with Hurts ad the starter and Tua playing elsewhere? Any suggestion that Tua would have sat for 3 seasons is delusional.
 
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