Saban still whining over missing CFP

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It's mid June and he's still crying. He wants the teams selected based on betting lines (at least when it favors Bama).

Nick Saban on missing CFP: ‘Why aren’t we in the playoffs’ if we would have been favored?

“So but the problem with the way the whole system is, there’s no accounting for that, right,” Saban said of parity. “So, all we do is take the teams that win the most games at the end of the year, put them in the playoffs. But do you really get the best teams? When they told me that we would be favored against three out of the four teams that got in the playoff, I’m like, why aren’t we in the playoffs?”
 
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It's mid June and he's still crying. He wants the teams selected based on betting lines (at least when it favors Bama).

Nick Saban on missing CFP: ‘Why aren’t we in the playoffs’ if we would have been favored?

“So but the problem with the way the whole system is, there’s no accounting for that, right,” Saban said of parity. “So, all we do is take the teams that win the most games at the end of the year, put them in the playoffs. But do you really get the best teams? When they told me that we would be favored against three out of the four teams that got in the playoff, I’m like, why aren’t we in the playoffs?”

Nick is just bitter about 5'2" short
 
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The dude's just a gaming SOB. He'll take whatever angle gives him an advantage and try to use his influence to bully whoever is in charge to give him that advantage over his opponents. Fine if he can pull it off, I guess, but he should be called and resisted at every turn. His time is almost up
 
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While I think he looks like a bit of a whiner at this point, I think he’s absolutely right. The selection committee needs to stop putting so much emphasis on record. If schedules were more balanced, as in the NFL, comparing records has more validity. A 10-2 SEC team is going to be better than an 11-1 or even 12-0 team from another conference a lot of the time. I think Alabama should have gotten in over Ohio State last year. They lost twice on the road on the last play of each game to two top 10 teams. OSU got curb stomped at home the last game of the season and played a much weaker schedule. When the CFP expands to 12, the SEC should have 4-6 teams in every year given the current landscape. It likely would have had 4 in last year and that’s with Florida, aTm and Auburn being abnormally down.
 
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The reason they may be favored is the Alabama name alone. If they hadn't been so successful in the past they wouldn't have been in the conversation, they lost 2 games and very easily could have lost 3 more.

Stop whining and get your team ready to play. Haven't looked at 23 schedule but they better be ready for that 24 schedule!
 
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Dear Nick:
For many years, the college football champion has had to, at one point, have a committee decide the fate of the "getting in". I think there have been times where, under the same category you are whining about, Bama got in when a more deserving team sat home. So, bye.
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While I think he looks like a bit of a whiner at this point, I think he’s absolutely right. The selection committee needs to stop putting so much emphasis on record. If schedules were more balanced, as in the NFL, comparing records has more validity. A 10-2 SEC team is going to be better than an 11-1 or even 12-0 team from another conference a lot of the time. I think Alabama should have gotten in over Ohio State last year. They lost twice on the road on the last play of each game to two top 10 teams. OSU got curb stomped at home the last game of the season and played a much weaker schedule. When the CFP expands to 12, the SEC should have 4-6 teams in every year given the current landscape. It likely would have had 4 in last year and that’s with Florida, aTm and Auburn being abnormally down.

Then shouldn’t TN still be given preference over Bama? We lost two on the road with a tougher schedule and beat Bama head to head.
 
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Dear Nick:
For many years, the college football champion has had to, at one point, have a committee decide the fate of the "getting in". I think there have been times where, under the same category you are whining about, Bama got in when a more deserving team sat home. So, bye.
Love,
VolNation.
This all day.


But honestly, I love his tears. I would gather them and make Salty Dog cocktails out of them if I had the opportunity.
 
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Then shouldn’t TN still be given preference over Bama? We lost two on the road with a tougher schedule and beat Bama head to head.
I have the Power T tattooed on my body, but I try to look at in from an unbiased perspective. The way we lost our two games was significant (especially the USC game), as was the fact that HH would have been out for the CFP. If the objective is to get the best 4 teams in, I think Alabama was one of those 4.
 
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I have the Power T tattooed on my body, but I try to look at in from an unbiased perspective. The way we lost our two games was significant (especially the USC game), as was the fact that HH would have been out for the CFP. If the objective is to get the best 4 teams in, I think Alabama was one of those 4.
With Saban's "logic" of using point spreads to determine the teams in the CFP, couldn't Kirby Smart then say UGA would be favored over Bama or any other team in the NCAA so why even play the CFP games and not just crown UGA national champs as they would be favored over all other teams?

If Saban wants to continue to cry 6+ months later about be left out later I'll give him a hankey but proposing that point spreads be used to pick teams is straight up stupid and desperate.
 
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With Saban's "logic" of using point spreads to determine the teams in the CFP, couldn't Kirby Smart then say UGA would be favored over Bama or any other team in the NCAA so why even play the CFP games and not just crown UGA national champs as they would be favored over all other teams?

If Saban wants to continue to cry 6+ months later about be left out later I'll give him a hankey but proposing that point spreads be used to pick teams is straight up stupid and desperate.
I think he's planting the seed in case a similar situation arises at the end of this year. When it goes to 12 he'll prolly never have to worry about it again unless it's for seeding.
 
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I have the Power T tattooed on my body, but I try to look at in from an unbiased perspective. The way we lost our two games was significant (especially the USC game), as was the fact that HH would have been out for the CFP. If the objective is to get the best 4 teams in, I think Alabama was one of those 4.

They were not looking for the best 4 "paid" teams.
 
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I have the Power T tattooed on my body, but I try to look at in from an unbiased perspective. The way we lost our two games was significant (especially the USC game), as was the fact that HH would have been out for the CFP. If the objective is to get the best 4 teams in, I think Alabama was one of those 4.

But Bama was also one play away from losing at least two more games.
 
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I have the Power T tattooed on my body, but I try to look at in from an unbiased perspective. The way we lost our two games was significant (especially the USC game), as was the fact that HH would have been out for the CFP. If the objective is to get the best 4 teams in, I think Alabama was one of those 4.

This gets into the best vs the most deserving debate. Was Alabama one of the 4 best teams last year? I think most unbiased people would probably say yes. Were they one of the 4 most deserving? Absolutely not, and IMO the close losses should be offset by the close wins, so at the end of the day they had two losses. Truth is they were playing with fire for a few weeks last year and scraped by.

The most deserving get in and that is the system. But we saw how that worked out for TCU. So I see his point. At the end of the day though he is just advocating for his team like he should, but saying this after the fact just seems like whining.
 
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This gets into the best vs the most deserving debate. Was Alabama one of the 4 best teams last year? I think most unbiased people would probably say yes. Were they one of the 4 most deserving? Absolutely not, and IMO the close losses should be offset by the close wins, so at the end of the day they had two losses. Truth is they were playing with fire for a few weeks last year and scraped by.

The most deserving get in and that is the system. But we saw how that worked out for TCU. So I see his point. At the end of the day though he is just advocating for his team like he should, but saying this after the fact just seems like whining.

Yeah I mean, it’s done. He can’t go back and change it. Just stop whining and get ready for next year. Endlessly harping on it just makes him look childish
 
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While I think he looks like a bit of a whiner at this point, I think he’s absolutely right. The selection committee needs to stop putting so much emphasis on record. If schedules were more balanced, as in the NFL, comparing records has more validity. A 10-2 SEC team is going to be better than an 11-1 or even 12-0 team from another conference a lot of the time. I think Alabama should have gotten in over Ohio State last year. They lost twice on the road on the last play of each game to two top 10 teams. OSU got curb stomped at home the last game of the season and played a much weaker schedule. When the CFP expands to 12, the SEC should have 4-6 teams in every year given the current landscape. It likely would have had 4 in last year and that’s with Florida, aTm and Auburn being abnormally down.

I will always think of LSU getting in the NC with two losses. Similar, Bama had two losses and those were to two SEC teams. Even seems that one of those LSU losses was to Kentucky.
 
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While I think he looks like a bit of a whiner at this point, I think he’s absolutely right. The selection committee needs to stop putting so much emphasis on record. If schedules were more balanced, as in the NFL, comparing records has more validity. A 10-2 SEC team is going to be better than an 11-1 or even 12-0 team from another conference a lot of the time. I think Alabama should have gotten in over Ohio State last year. They lost twice on the road on the last play of each game to two top 10 teams. OSU got curb stomped at home the last game of the season and played a much weaker schedule. When the CFP expands to 12, the SEC should have 4-6 teams in every year given the current landscape. It likely would have had 4 in last year and that’s with Florida, aTm and Auburn being abnormally down.
LSU was in the top 10 for a few weeks after beating Alabama but they didn't finish there after losing to Texas A&M and Georgia.

Looking at their whole body of work with 4 losses, including 3 by 15 or more points, I don't think LSU was very good in 2022. Alabama was punished for losing to them and there was nothing unfair about that.

I like that Heupel didn't do this whiney crap. We didn't deserve to be there either.
 
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