Say Goodbye To U.S. Air Dominance:

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sounds like political gibberish from both parties. Schwartz is lobbying for his crowd and losing, but let's not take that too seriously as a sign that we won't have air superiority for years to come.
 
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getyopopcornready said:
I'm moving to New Zealand.
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I met a girl from New Zealand one time in Munich, Germany.

I was standing in line in a bank about to change a twenty into Marks and she came in about to cash a travelers check and I of course, being the ever chivalrous southerner allowed her to precede me, besides that made the view ever so much better, I nearly always take the sceninc route.

So after she left and I got my twenty changed I caught up with her and we eventually ended up at the Hoffbrau Hous inbibing a couple of litres of brew each, she insisted in paying for here own and the only cost a quarter so that may have been the cheapest date I ever had.

Turns out she was 21 and on a solo round the world trip which had started out with her and her boyfriend sailing to Japan to get married in one of those romantic garden pagodas but they had gotten into an argument on the trip over and he sailed back home and she continued her journey using money she had saved since she had turned 17 and opened her own beaty parlor.

Let me know when you get ready to go, I'll stow away in your steamer trunk, I'd like to look her up.

Oh wait, I steered her to Tennessee and probably someone with some smarts probably kept her here, she was definately a keeper.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Soon the Mexican Air Force will control the American skies.
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As a matter of fact a Mexican Army helicopter did fly over American airspace several hours last week with no response from the US government.

Of course the Mexican Air Force is a joke but what isn't a joke is Obama creating a new US government agency to vet what can or cannot be shipped overseas that has been developed by our tax dollars for the defense industry including dual use items.

What Bubba Clinton was selling the Chinese at retail for campaign contributions will now be sold at wholesale by Obama.

Of course with that will go more American jobs, very few if any computer chips are manufactured in America anymore.
 
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gsvol said:
... very few if any computer chips are manufactured in America anymore.
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I was told by someone with a Top Secret clearance that he isn't allowed to have an IBM Lenovo computer as the chip is manufactured in China and it is well known that they have engineered a backdoor into the computer and chip.
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gsvol said:
I met a girl from New Zealand one time in Munich, Germany.

I was standing in line in a bank about to change a twenty into Marks and she came in about to cash a travelers check and I of course, being the ever chivalrous southerner allowed her to precede me, besides that made the view ever so much better, I nearly always take the sceninc route.

So after she left and I got my twenty changed I caught up with her and we eventually ended up at the Hoffbrau Hous inbibing a couple of litres of brew each, she insisted in paying for here own and the only cost a quarter so that may have been the cheapest date I ever had.

Turns out she was 21 and on a solo round the world trip which had started out with her and her boyfriend sailing to Japan to get married in one of those romantic garden pagodas but they had gotten into an argument on the trip over and he sailed back home and she continued her journey using money she had saved since she had turned 17 and opened her own beaty parlor.

Let me know when you get ready to go, I'll stow away in your steamer trunk, I'd like to look her up.

Oh wait, I steered her to Tennessee and probably someone with some smarts probably kept her here, she was definately a keeper.
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I'm going to seriously consider it if we continue down the communist path here in the US. I traveled out of the country for the first time in my life last year to a resort 30 miles north of Cancun. Up until then, I was blind to the quality of life outside the U.S. And not just the women, but it's just nice to come in contact with people who are just actually enjoying life. You know what I'm talking about. How many people have you met in Tennessee who have actually gone on a journey like that? And in what, one week? You meet a girl in New Zealand who is doing exactly that?
 
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getyopopcornready said:
I'm going to seriously consider it if we continue down the communist path here in the US. I traveled out of the country for the first time in my life last year to a resort 30 miles north of Cancun. Up until then, I was blind to the quality of life outside the U.S. And not just the women, but it's just nice to come in contact with people who are just actually enjoying life. You know what I'm talking about. How many people have you met in Tennessee who have actually gone on a journey like that? And in what, one week? You meet a girl in New Zealand who is doing exactly that?
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I love America, I've lived here all of my life. The beauty of the land is unparalleled in my opinion. However, whenever I hear someone saying that "America is #1" in everything, that is code to me that a.) they've never been out of the country or b.) they've never been out of their county. Every country I've been to has it's pluses and minuses, and the quality of life is similar to what people in the States have. For example, Vietnam, the poorest of the poor live very similarly to the poorest of the poor in the US. The middle class in Vietnam, in my opinion, live better than many middle class people in the US (I know, I know, Vietnam is suppose to be communist, guess what, Saigon is the most capitalistic I've ever been to).

In regards to you leaving, if you wait until it's crystal clear that we've become a communist/facist/*ist country, it will be too late. Here is an article that states that the trend of people renouncing citizenship is increasing: More American Expatriates Give Up Citizenship. It will be interesting to see if this trend accelerates.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
I love America, I've lived here all of my life. The beauty of the land is unparalleled in my opinion. However, whenever I hear someone saying that "America is #1" in everything, that is code to me that a.) they've never been out of the country or b.) they've never been out of their county. Every country I've been to has it's pluses and minuses, and the quality of life is similar to what people in the States have. For example, Vietnam, the poorest of the poor live very similarly to the poorest of the poor in the US. The middle class in Vietnam, in my opinion, live better than many middle class people in the US (I know, I know, Vietnam is suppose to be communist, guess what, Saigon is the most capitalistic I've ever been to).

In regards to you leaving, if you wait until it's crystal clear that we've become a communist/facist/*ist country, it will be too late. Here is an article that states that the trend of people renouncing citizenship is increasing: More American Expatriates Give Up Citizenship. It will be interesting to see if this trend accelerates.
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This was right for at least one sentence. Once you started pretending that the poor in Vietnam are comparable to those in America, you totally lost your mind.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
I love America, I've lived here all of my life. The beauty of the land is unparalleled in my opinion. However, whenever I hear someone saying that "America is #1" in everything, that is code to me that a.) they've never been out of the country or b.) they've never been out of their county. Every country I've been to has it's pluses and minuses, and the quality of life is similar to what people in the States have. For example, Vietnam, the poorest of the poor live very similarly to the poorest of the poor in the US. The middle class in Vietnam, in my opinion, live better than many middle class people in the US (I know, I know, Vietnam is suppose to be communist, guess what, Saigon is the most capitalistic I've ever been to).

In regards to you leaving, if you wait until it's crystal clear that we've become a communist/facist/*ist country, it will be too late. Here is an article that states that the trend of people renouncing citizenship is increasing: More American Expatriates Give Up Citizenship. It will be interesting to see if this trend accelerates.
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you obviously have not been to vietnam (I have). that is an absurd statement. our poor are the richest poor in the world and that is undebatable.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
I love America, I've lived here all of my life. The beauty of the land is unparalleled in my opinion. However, whenever I hear someone saying that "America is #1" in everything, that is code to me that a.) they've never been out of the country or b.) they've never been out of their county. Every country I've been to has it's pluses and minuses, and the quality of life is similar to what people in the States have. For example, Vietnam, the poorest of the poor live very similarly to the poorest of the poor in the US. The middle class in Vietnam, in my opinion, live better than many middle class people in the US (I know, I know, Vietnam is suppose to be communist, guess what, Saigon is the most capitalistic I've ever been to). In regards to you leaving, if you wait until it's crystal clear that we've become a communist/facist/*ist country, it will be too late. Here is an article that states that the trend of people renouncing citizenship is increasing: More American Expatriates Give Up Citizenship. It will be interesting to see if this trend accelerates.
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Ridiculous. The slums in Hanoi make Compton and Nickerson Gardens look like Beverly Hills.
 
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droski said:
you obviously have not been to vietnam (I have). that is an absurd statement. our poor are the richest poor in the world and that is undebatable.
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the Western Euros have some relatively well off poor too.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
I love America, I've lived here all of my life. The beauty of the land is unparalleled in my opinion. However, whenever I hear someone saying that "America is #1" in everything, that is code to me that a.) they've never been out of the country or b.) they've never been out of their county. Every country I've been to has it's pluses and minuses, and the quality of life is similar to what people in the States have. For example, Vietnam, the poorest of the poor live very similarly to the poorest of the poor in the US. The middle class in Vietnam, in my opinion, live better than many middle class people in the US (I know, I know, Vietnam is suppose to be communist, guess what, Saigon is the most capitalistic I've ever been to).

In regards to you leaving, if you wait until it's crystal clear that we've become a communist/facist/*ist country, it will be too late. Here is an article that states that the trend of people renouncing citizenship is increasing: More American Expatriates Give Up Citizenship. It will be interesting to see if this trend accelerates.
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Wonder why we have illegal immigrants in the millions, when according to you a significant number of people are emigrating.
 
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droski said:
poor people in western europe don't have cable and internet.
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Yeah, they do... and it's magnitudes cheaper. That's a side point, though. If I had a choice to be destitute (and lazy)... I honestly wouldn't choose the US.


On topic: this article is ridiculous. Just because the F-22 was cut doesn't mean a thing in the long run. Our pilots and our logistical capabilities are still many years ahead of our closest potential adversary. We need to advance our tech, yes, but that doesn't mean we should advance it into overpriced and inevitably pointless realms.

In the end... the A-10 is one of the most effective weapons platforms the USAF has used. It's also Stone Aged compared to the F-22.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
I was told by someone with a Top Secret clearance that he isn't allowed to have an IBM Lenovo computer as the chip is manufactured in China and it is well known that they have engineered a backdoor into the computer and chip.
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A while back I needed a new modem and someone recomended US Robotics as having the best so i had someone pick one up for me.

When I got it I noticed it was manufactured in China.

Now I wish I had just taken that piece of crap back instead of opening the box.

National Journal Magazine - China?s Cyber-Militia

Computer hackers in China, including those working on behalf of the Chinese government and military, have penetrated deeply into the information systems of U.S. companies and government agencies, stolen proprietary information from American executives in advance of their business meetings in China, and, in a few cases, gained access to electric power plants in the United States, possibly triggering two recent and widespread blackouts in Florida and the Northeast, according to U.S. government officials and computer-security experts.

One prominent expert told National Journal he believes that China’s People’s Liberation Army played a role in the power outages. Tim Bennett, the former president of the Cyber Security Industry Alliance, a leading trade group, said that U.S. intelligence officials have told him that the PLA in 2003 gained access to a network that controlled electric power systems serving the northeastern United States. The intelligence officials said that forensic analysis had confirmed the source, Bennett said. “They said that, with confidence, it had been traced back to the PLA.” These officials believe that the intrusion may have precipitated the largest blackout in North American history, which occurred in August of that year. A 9,300-square-mile area, touching Michigan, Ohio, New York, and parts of Canada, lost power; an estimated 50 million people were affected.
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https://www.infosecisland.com/blogv...id-of-Chinese-hackers-Or-lost-cyber-war-.html





getyopopcornready said:
I'm going to seriously consider it if we continue down the communist path here in the US. I traveled out of the country for the first time in my life last year to a resort 30 miles north of Cancun. Up until then, I was blind to the quality of life outside the U.S. And not just the women, but it's just nice to come in contact with people who are just actually enjoying life. You know what I'm talking about. How many people have you met in Tennessee who have actually gone on a journey like that? And in what, one week? You meet a girl in New Zealand who is doing exactly that?
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No doubt the ones in power now are communists, look at the horrible way we have treated Honduras because they wouldn't put up with a Chavista style marxist dictator.

Actually I met the New Zealander in Munich Germany.

I spent over a year and a half in Europe and at the time was always looking for female companionship, Canadian girls were the most fun, not at all pretentious

I was talking about becoming an expatriot forty five years ago and got a lecture from an American of Spanish descent who made quite a case for the cowardice of letting down all our ancestors who had worked, fought and died to make this country great and free. Convinced me.









MystifyingVol said:
I love America, I've lived here all of my life. The beauty of the land is unparalleled in my opinion. However, whenever I hear someone saying that "America is #1" in everything, that is code to me that a.) they've never been out of the country or b.) they've never been out of their county. Every country I've been to has it's pluses and minuses, and the quality of life is similar to what people in the States have. For example, Vietnam, the poorest of the poor live very similarly to the poorest of the poor in the US. The middle class in Vietnam, in my opinion, live better than many middle class people in the US (I know, I know, Vietnam is suppose to be communist, guess what, Saigon is the most capitalistic I've ever been to).

In regards to you leaving, if you wait until it's crystal clear that we've become a communist/facist/*ist country, it will be too late. Here is an article that states that the trend of people renouncing citizenship is increasing: More American Expatriates Give Up Citizenship. It will be interesting to see if this trend accelerates.
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Renouncing American citizenship IS NOT the way to go, having dual or triple citizenship complete with having legal passports from each nation is.

Every place in the world has it's upsides and downsides.

The thing about it is where ever you go, there you are, if you're happy and get along well with people, most of the time you don't have a lot of problems.
 
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orangeblooded2 said:
RAND which Arnold and Lemay help found, is still doing it's alien technology conversion. So who knows what we really have....
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Andrew Jackson founded the Democrat party too, but today's democrat bears no resemblance to the original.

For that matter when Hap and Curtis were around there was such a thing as a conservative democrat, today they are completely dominated by the 'progressive' (socialist) wing.

The Rand corporation today more reflects the attitudes of and is dominated by groups such as the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations of London and the Club of Rome.
 
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I go to Saigon every year and have been to the rural areas and seen how they live. Yes, there are open air shacks, but the "poor" seem much happier there. Should have qualified that.

Granted, I saw a hospital there and it horrified me.
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MystifyingVol said:
I go to Saigon every year and have been to the rural areas and seen how they live. Yes, there are open air shacks, but the "poor" seem much happier there. Should have qualified that.

Granted, I saw a hospital there and it horrified me.
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Their society certainly isn't focused on material things. Amazing to me how significant the war remains. The Southern folks just don't have any men in certain age groups.
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