SEC Championship game no longer needed?

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I've said it for awhile, with a new playoff format you will have 12 games, SECCG, and potentially 4 playoff games. 17 games that's an NFL schedule. The 72 Dolphins went 17-0, just crazy to think college playing that type of schedule. I think if other conferences eliminate their CCG you might see the SEC do so too because fact is it is a competitive disadvantage to have to play 1 extra game. Think about it, ACCCG is not nearly as much a money-maker as the SECCG. I could see the ACC eliminating it to give Clemson an advantage. Having a team advance from the round of 12 to 8 is more profitable than having a CCG and then seeing your champion eliminated in the first round.

The other thing is could you see teams that appear in the CCG just tank to keep players healthy?

Another idea would be to reduce the season to 11 games since a regular season game doesn't bring in the money of a CCG. I just think that if we start to see teams in their CCG get eliminated early or see a trend of teams winning more who don't appear in the CCG, that is when you'll see a change.
 
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Big $$$$ is needed.

The game is a distant 2nd fiddle, but necessary to collect the Big $$$$.
 
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Basically for the near future I think we'll continue to have one because the SEC championship will mean an automatic playoff birth and a bye almost every time.
 
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And the conference champs get a first round bye. Pretend that LSU, UNC, and KSTATE all won. Crappy teams getting rewarded while going 12-1 in the SEC (GA) earns you extra game in the playoffs. I say do away with CCG's......
 
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I think we need one simply for the fact these kids get paid now. So since they get paid treat it like a business and go make that money. That's how everyone felt about them so they could start making money.
 
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They just need to play 2 less games if there is going to be a 12 team playoff and a championship game. Think about what a 12 team playoff will look like. The SEC, B1G, etc. will have 3 or 4 teams in or more every year. A couple of the pointless games can go. I don’t think college football will miss Alabama VS Western Carolina.
 
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No.

But it likely continues, as it is a big money maker for the SEC and the mouse company.
 
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Hopeful Vol said:
Instead of playing 12 regular season games cut it down to 10 games
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I’d be ok going to an all SEC 10 game season or 11 if they don’t cut the SECC. Now with all that said, let’s not pretend they can’t have that many games. FCS plays 11 season games with no conference championship games, but they also have only 63 scholarship players and a larger playoff. If they can do it, the supposedly best of the best should be able to play that many games with that many more extra scholarship players.
 
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TnVol! said:
The championship games all will go away.
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I doubt it. The one constant for any rules and policy decisions in pro and college sports that has never changed over at least the last 30 years or so is that no change ever occurs that doesn't have something to do with revenue enhancement. Be it "safety" rules that protest against litigation or adding post season games, the bottom line is the primary (only?) consideration.

The CCG's are cash cows. If the overlong season was a concern we would never have seen an expanded playoff (which would have been fine with me). Unless there is some way of making up the lost revenue from CCG's, they aren't going anywhere.
 
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If there are just one division, then why even have a championship game. I agree, would be only to make money. only problem would be if the two top teams had identical records, guess tie breaker highest rank team wins the SEC.
Should revert back to the days with no Championship game.
 
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PurpleTraveler said:
With the expanded playoffs, P5 championship games are irrelevant, especially SEC and B1G.

I don't like this trend towards NFL-lite. The SEC championship game should be the path to the Sugar Bowl.
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rdk4121 said:
I hope so, just because you can't ask college players to play that many games. The first round of the playoffs acts like the conference championship week. With 9 conference games as well, you really don't need it.
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College players are paid now. That should end the argument for limiting the number of games they play.
 
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The point of expansion is or should be to reward conference championships. Ask K State if they think conference championships don't mean anything.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Basically for the near future I think we'll continue to have one because the SEC championship will mean an automatic playoff birth and a bye almost every time.
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Exactly. The reason all of the conferences are eliminating divisions is because of the bye. The conferences all want their two best and highest ranked teams playing for the championships. The SEC conference champion will get a bye every year. Very little chance they won't be one of the Top 4 ranked conference champions - EVER.

Also, why would college football go to a playoff for the extra money, and then eliminate the huge payday of conference championship week? It's all about the Benjamin's. Player health will always be secondary.
 
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If championship games remain, it would be for the sole purpose of seeding the playoffs. It could be done without, but it would be a great way to determine the 4 byes in a 12 team playoff.

I should say: this is also assuming that the PAC or Big 12 is pretty much going to go away with all the conference hopping/restructuring.
 
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rocky top buzz said:
I've said it for awhile, with a new playoff format you will have 12 games, SECCG, and potentially 4 playoff games. 17 games that's an NFL schedule. The 72 Dolphins went 17-0, just crazy to think college playing that type of schedule. I think if other conferences eliminate their CCG you might see the SEC do so too because fact is it is a competitive disadvantage to have to play 1 extra game. Think about it, ACCCG is not nearly as much a money-maker as the SECCG. I could see the ACC eliminating it to give Clemson an advantage. Having a team advance from the round of 12 to 8 is more profitable than having a CCG and then seeing your champion eliminated in the first round.

The other thing is could you see teams that appear in the CCG just tank to keep players healthy?

Another idea would be to reduce the season to 11 games since a regular season game doesn't bring in the money of a CCG. I just think that if we start to see teams in their CCG get eliminated early or see a trend of teams winning more who don't appear in the CCG, that is when you'll see a change.
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Yeah, the lights may come on and the band might be playing but 16 or 17 college games isn't really comparable to 16 or 17 NFL games. In the NFL, every game is played against the top talent in the world. Even a potential super bowl champ vs the worst in the league is closer match up in terms of talent and physicality than a top flight power 5 vs a bottom 100 foe and esp a D 1AA team. Additionally, most teams are already practicing throughout December anyway and I know when I played you had more physical practices during weeks when there was no game being played on Friday or Saturday.

So, if you're worried about more games, you can simply eliminate 2 gimmes during the regular season, use those weeks for byes and tack on a game or 2 in a playoff. I know that even though I'm not a fan of any of the teams, I'd be excited as hell if the first week of the playoff was this Saturday and I could watch Tenn/K State, Bama/USC and OSU/PSU over a floundering UF and some other bowl matching up 2 6 win teams. But hey, at least I got to watch UGA play Charleston Southern.
 
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volbound1700 said:
The expanded playoff also makes it kind of pointless as the SEC Champion can get beat by other SEC teams in playoff, kind of like what happened in 2021 with the SEC Championship by Alabama being pointless.

However, it is not going away. Too much $$$
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I agree, however, with the extra playoff games, it would be much better for the players not to have this game.
 
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