SEC coaches weigh future of Oklahoma drill as NFL asks its teams to stop using it

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BowlBrother85 said:
I think this part depends on which variation of "Oklahoma" is being utilized. It doesn't have to just be an amateur wrestling match.
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The bull in the ring variation was not a wrestling match. It was like two stags on the nature show ramming head on full speed during the rut. You were running in place in the middle of the circle, and when you decided who to point at, that's what happened. The ring took the place of a lot of fights during practice.
 
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volfanhill said:
My problem is with people claiming it’s the wussification of kids. It’s not that. It’s called being smarter.
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Exactly. I'm pretty sure I had at least 2 undiagnosed concussions from playing HS football and both were from drills like this. And I didn't need to get a consussion to prove I could "take a hit".

I guess making sure kids are properly hydrated is "wussification" too, because that was all kinds of intelligent to keep water from kids as punishment.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Exactly. I'm pretty sure I had at least 2 undiagnosed concussions from playing HS football and both were from drills like this. And I didn't need to get a consussion to prove I could "take a hit".

I guess making sure kids are properly hydrated is "wussification" too, because that was all kinds of intelligent to keep water from kids as punishment.
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Water is a crutch. Duh
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Exactly. I'm pretty sure I had at least 2 undiagnosed concussions from playing HS football and both were from drills like this. And I didn't need to get a consussion to prove I could "take a hit".

I received them playing H.S. and college. I remember getting up seeing (stars) and just hoping I was walking back to the huddle so that the other players wouldn't be having fun at my expense. Back then, we didn't know the damage they could cause!

I guess making sure kids are properly hydrated is "wussification" too, because that was all kinds of intelligent to keep water from kids as punishment.
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volfanbill said:
Water is a crutch. Duh
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I definitely remember those early fall practices when it was still 100 degrees. And, being to the point of thirsty but still not able to drink water.

Good ole days!
 
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I never played football, but it’s interesting that in such a intense outdoor environment, staying hydrated was so frowned on. Between basketball, tennis and baseball, getting plenty to drink was always heavily encouraged.
 
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XknoxvolsX said:
I definitely remember those early fall practices when it was still 100 degrees. And, being to the point of thirsty but still not able to drink water.

Good ole days!
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My favorite was the first week of 2 a days, the morning session was mostly a crapton of cardio mixed in with some technique drills. There was one mother of them all drills that was kind of a test and if we passed, we got a water break. If we failed, we had to it again. First day we passed, second day it felt about 10 degrees hotter and we had a more intense session and we didn't pass. So we were forced to do it again. When guys started dropping they decided maybe we should get a water break.
 
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I think what gets lost sometimes is how the drill is implemented. How much time do the coaches spend matching up the players?

Do you put your senior D1 O lineman verses a freshman? Or do you take the time to set it up with the guys that are similar in size and experience.

When I was a HS player at a small single A school, we just didn’t have enough guys, so the Oklahoma drill, was one way to match some guys up as evenly as possible to assure no one was gonna get just creamed.

Later I coached middle school ball and we had even fewer kids. I was lucky to have a really good Oline/Dline coach who taught both getting off the ball, the first step, and hand placement, etc...all while using a variation of the drill.

Later I coached at the HS level, at a big HS, we might have done the drill a time or two in spring ball, but It wasn’t really a part of the plan 99% of time, by that level and with that many players and coaches, there are more effective and efficient ways to teach those skills.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Exactly. I'm pretty sure I had at least 2 undiagnosed concussions from playing HS football and both were from drills like this. And I didn't need to get a consussion to prove I could "take a hit".

I guess making sure kids are properly hydrated is "wussification" too, because that was all kinds of intelligent to keep water from kids as punishment.
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Water is for cowards. Water makes you weak. Water is for washin' blood off my uniform...and you don't get blood on that uniform!

- Coach Herman Boone
 
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GVF said:
It has a very specific purpose. To see who is afraid to hit and who is not. It has no other developmental purpose other than to let the coaches know instantly where the players are at mentally. Can't be afraid to hit or be hit. My first Bull in the Ring when I got pointed at was an O=S*** moment. And in my day the timid always sought to hopefully point at someone even more timid. And the bad boys pointed at the timid just to plant them in the ground and F*** with them. The king of the ring was the half-pint DB 2nd stringer that pointed at the biggest baddest mofo. The drill may be useless. But it left no pu***** on the roster.
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Disagree
 
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volfanbill said:
Water is a crutch. Duh
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Picking up weights will make you big, slow, and inflexible, just do not touch them. Duh.

From the book I'm working on: Things I learned that were certain in high school.
 
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