SEC Coaches Win % before SEC

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All, here are the facts about the top 3 current SEC coaches and their winning percentage as head COLLEGE coaches before they came to the SEC along with the average games won per year based upon 12 games per year (obviousley wasn't 12 back in the day, but whatever) -

1. Steve Spurrier - W20-L13 - 61% winning - 7.3 Average per year games won.
2. Nick Saben - W43-L26 - 62% winning - 7.4 apygw
3. Les Miles - W28-L21 - 57% winning - 6.8 apygw

Now our current coach -
Butch Jones - W50-L27 - 65% winning - 7.8 apygw

Simple Math and better than the top 3.

Everyone Relax and get ready for some wins.
 
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I'm not going to expect much this coming year, but it has to better than the last few years. I think within 3-4 years, if CBJ proves to be a good recruiter, we'll be back competing for the SECE and SECC. He'll need the horses to compete in the SEC, but we can't deny his past success.
 
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Good post OP. Logic is needed this time of year. Here's to hoping those numbers translate into similiar success.
 
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Interesting. It's simple and to the point. I like it.

He has the best numbers with the largest sample set.

It's going to be hard for the venom spewers to spew on this one. But given time, I think they'll cook up something.
 
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I seen a similar comparison and thought about that, I believe he will be good in time here.
 
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MobileVol1 said:
All, here are the facts about the top 3 current SEC coaches and their winning percentage as head COLLEGE coaches before they came to the SEC along with the average games won per year based upon 12 games per year (obviousley wasn't 12 back in the day, but whatever) -

1. Steve Spurrier - W20-L13 - 61% winning - 7.3 Average per year games won.
2. Nick Saben - W43-L26 - 62% winning - 7.4 apygw
3. Les Miles - W28-L21 - 57% winning - 6.8 apygw

Now our current coach -
Butch Jones - W50-L27 - 65% winning - 7.8 apygw

Simple Math and better than the top 3.

Everyone Relax and get ready for some wins.
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Saban and Miles had success very quickly in the SEC. Spurrier has been working on it for quite some time now. The difference is in recruiting. Saban and Miles continue to pull in top 5 classes (truly reloading, not rebuilding). Spurrier hasn't been as successful pulling them in consistently, thus he has had to work longer for the success.

How Butch does in win percentage in the SEC will depend upon how consistently he can pull in top rated recruiting classes. JMO.
 
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1. Houston Nutt - 36-22 - 62% ... 99-74 at Ole Miss and Arky.
2. Curley Hallman - 23-13 - 63% ... 16-28 at LSU
3. Jackie Sherrill - 105-47 - 69% ... 75-75-2 at Miss St.

This is not logic. It's anecdotal cherry-picking.
 
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volinexile17 said:
1. Houston Nutt - 36-22 - 62% ... 99-74 at Ole Miss and Arky.
2. Curley Hallman - 23-13 - 63% ... 16-28 at LSU
3. Jackie Sherrill - 105-47 - 69% ... 75-75-2 at Miss St.

This is not logic. It's anecdotal cherry-picking.
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The point of the post is not necessarily to "prove" that he will win, but rather an excellent statement of the fact that he is just as well-credentialed and has a very similar past to those who are now considered to be at the top in the SEC.
 
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Saban was coaching in the Big 10 before entering the SEC.
Miles was coaching in the pre-exodus Big XII.
Spurrier coached at freaking Duke.

Jones coached in the MAC and in a piss-poor Big East.

And basing average wins per year based on a 12 games schedule when those coaches only had 11 weights that number in Jones' favor.

These numbers don't indicate jack.
 
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Duke in the three years before Spurrier :

2-9
4-7
4-7

Mich. St. in three years before Saban

5-6
6-6
5-6

Oklahoma St. in three years before Miles:

5-6
5-6
3-8

Cincy in three years before Davis

10-3
11-3
12-1
 
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I really don't expect us to win much next year....especially if we lose a bunch of Junior star players to the draft, but I think year 2 Butch will win at least 2 games in which we are underdogs, not lose to anybody we are supposed to beat, and finish with at least 8 wins not counting a bowl game. By year 4, I think we will be competing for a spot in the SECCG and soon after for National Championships. I really do believe in this guy. His credentials are really good and he has worked his way up from the lowest levels of coaching to prove himself at every level. Hey, I am the eternal optimist but I just choose to believe that this guy is different than what we have had in the past and will win a couple of games a year that we have no business winning based on pure talent alone.
 
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MobileVol1 said:
All, here are the facts about the top 3 current SEC coaches and their winning percentage as head COLLEGE coaches before they came to the SEC along with the average games won per year based upon 12 games per year (obviousley wasn't 12 back in the day, but whatever) -

1. Steve Spurrier - W20-L13 - 61% winning - 7.3 Average per year games won.
2. Nick Saben - W43-L26 - 62% winning - 7.4 apygw
3. Les Miles - W28-L21 - 57% winning - 6.8 apygw

Now our current coach -
Butch Jones - W50-L27 - 65% winning - 7.8 apygw

Simple Math and better than the top 3.

Everyone Relax and get ready for some wins.
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Will the next 2 years lower Jones winning percentage big time?
 
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Saban ain't that hard to spell. You just take the t out of Satan and replace it with a b.
 
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Exiled said:
Saban and Miles had success very quickly in the SEC. Spurrier has been working on it for quite some time now. The difference is in recruiting. Saban and Miles continue to pull in top 5 classes (truly reloading, not rebuilding). Spurrier hasn't been as successful pulling them in consistently, thus he has had to work longer for the success.
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I'm gonna pretend you're joking.
 
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Reverend Bubba Flavel said:
Duke in the three years before Spurrier :

2-9
4-7
4-7

Mich. St. in three years before Saban

5-6
6-6
5-6

Oklahoma St. in three years before Miles:

5-6
5-6
3-8

Cincy in three years before Davis

10-3
11-3
12-1
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Solid point, but it's Jones. We hired Butch Jones. I'm pretty sure I've made the same mistake myself.
 
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volinexile17 said:
1. Houston Nutt - 36-22 - 62% ... 99-74 at Ole Miss and Arky.
2. Curley Hallman - 23-13 - 63% ... 16-28 at LSU
3. Jackie Sherrill - 105-47 - 69% ... 75-75-2 at Miss St.

This is not logic. It's anecdotal cherry-picking.
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That's the stat I was curious about. Sure, CBJ has a good record at his previous school but most SEC school's don't hire Dooley's (coaches with losing records in weak conferences). I mean, I believe Jim Donnan had a very good record in the MAC before going to Georgia.

I don't think you're going to find a statistic that proves how god CBJ will/will not be at UT. We will know more about him as a recruiter in the next few weeks, and we'll know how he can coach around this time next year.

In year 1, I think it's important that he goes to a bowl game, and beats one of the big 3 on our schedule (Alabama/Florida/Georgia. I refuse to label SC as "big."). I think had Dooley gotten the win at LSU in year 1, his tenure would have been completely different.
 
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