SEC means $ to Missouri.

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I keep forgetting that they're in the SEC. They've been fairly quiet since joining, unlike A&M.
 
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Mizzou is just along for the ride. Injuries crippled them last year and I get that, but as for their overall athletic department, the dont bring much to the table. St Louis tv revenue must have really been something Slive wanted because thats about all your getting with them. That, and the East gained a mid to low tier program.
 
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Mizzou is just along for the ride. Injuries crippled them last year and I get that, but as for their overall athletic department, the dont bring much to the table. St Louis tv revenue must have really been something Slive wanted because thats about all your getting with them. That, and the East gained a mid to low tier program.

They are #14. Any school that wasn't Clemson, FSU or Georgia Tech that wouldn't embarass the conference would have been fine.
 
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Unfortunately Clemson, Ga Tech, and FSU can't join since South Carolina, Florida, and Georgia have that agreement. This year's Clemson team would win the east. Dabo has done a good job recruiting SEC caliber talent.
 
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Unfortunately Clemson, Ga Tech, and FSU can't join since South Carolina, Florida, and Georgia have that agreement. This year's Clemson team would win the east. Dabo has done a good job recruiting SEC caliber talent.

That's because they got paid more than Bray and Couch.

Also why Auburn won a championship.

And why Ole Miss is recruiting the way they do.

In Dabo/Clemson's case, easy to recruit when all of your recruits are holding wads of 10g's.
 
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That's because they got paid more than Bray and Couch.

Also why Auburn won a championship.

And why Ole Miss is recruiting the way they do.

In Dabo/Clemson's case, easy to recruit when all of your recruits are holding wads of 10g's.

And that is why I am pro- giving student athletes compensation. It's going to happen in the next 10 years.
 
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And that is why I am pro- giving student athletes compensation. It's going to happen in the next 10 years.

I don't know what side I'm on but I can appreciate the fact that you do. I'm just saying as of today, I think Clemson is paying players and gives them more of an unfair advantage. I don't know what teams are doing it exactly but Clemson seems to have their share of recruits holding fat wads of cash. I imagine that's what is going on Ole Miss too because their surge in recruiting is insane.
 
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I don't know what side I'm on but I can appreciate the fact that you do. I'm just saying as of today, I think Clemson is paying players and gives them more of an unfair advantage. I don't know what teams are doing it exactly but Clemson seems to have their share of recruits holding fat wads of cash. I imagine that's what is going on Ole Miss too because their surge in recruiting is insane.

Any money being thrown around at Ole Miss isn't coming from Freeze IMO. I believe it's boosters giving them money and Freeze isn't aware.
 
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They are #14. Any school that wasn't Clemson, FSU or Georgia Tech that wouldn't embarass the conference would have been fine.

Unfortunately Clemson, Ga Tech, and FSU can't join since South Carolina, Florida, and Georgia have that agreement. This year's Clemson team would win the east. Dabo has done a good job recruiting SEC caliber talent.

And because 2 of the three simply didn't want to join.

FSU probably did but the conference doesn't like what they did the last time they were offered an invitation (it's why south carolina's in the conference though) as well as that they don't offer as much population-wise with the already pretty much owning the state of FL thing

And the conference would never want Tech back.
 
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And because 2 of the three simply didn't want to join.

FSU probably did but the conference doesn't like what they did the last time they were offered an invitation (it's why south carolina's in the conference though) as well as that they don't offer as much population-wise with the already pretty much owning the state of FL thing

And the conference would never want Tech back.

And I really don't get why seemingly so many here want them back. They really don't bring a lot to the table. The SEC already has the Atlanta market, Tech's football and basketball programs are rather average albeit they do have good histories.

Honestly I don't see why all 3 are mentioned. I get from a pure football "Southern" type perspective, they fit but nothing else about it does.
 
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Mizzou is just along for the ride. Injuries crippled them last year and I get that, but as for their overall athletic department, the dont bring much to the table. St Louis tv revenue must have really been something Slive wanted because thats about all your getting with them. That, and the East gained a mid to low tier program.

Pretty much it was the St Louis and Kansas City markets (it being a single major school in a state of 6 million), their being a better major school option left, and the AAU standing didn't hurt.

(Going off cities before the conference added A&M) St Louis was a bigger sized market than pretty much every major market SEC city save Atlanta. Kansas City, I think, was about the same..bigger market than them all save Atlanta (and maybe Nashville now).
(It might also have been of partial benefit that...at the time...it kind of drew a further border/line not to cross against the Big 10 to keep them from extending into the southern states)

The other part though was the conference clearly had some other teams it wanted, but upon whatever contact was made, they just weren't interested/they couldn't get them..

The reports came out about interest in the NC schools, but nothing came of that. VT and Clemson were both adamantly going out of their ways to shoot down any rumors to prevent them from gaining any ground, so they weren't really in for it. (FSU was, but the conference wasn't going to be inviting them after their response to the last invite). I guess you could include OU since Slive was talking to them when he first started talking to A&M back when Nebraska and Colorado were leaving the Big 12. In the end though, none of those panned out.

That pretty much left at the time Missouri, West Virginia (who managed to show interest in both the SEC and ACC only to get shot down immediately by both), possibly TCU, and possibly Louisville...and a stretch, Maryland.

TCU and Louisville (this was before last season under Strong) would have just been doubling down in a same state, which since part of the purpose of these moves was a push for better TV contracts and an SEC network, wouldn't have been helpful...plus I don't think TCU was all that interested in this conference. (Maryland's a maybe here because, in retrospect, it turns out they just wanted more money because their athletic department was broke...hindsight though).

That pretty much just left Missouri and West Virginia. The conference could have also just stayed at 13 teams, but the way things played out they'd be stuck with that setup until about 2025. (Or we might get Louisville or more likely been stuck taking WVU).

I think the best comparison I heard for them when they joined was they'd be like another Ole Miss...they'll have up years but really more middle of the road to meh ones
 
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Wonder how much more excited Missouri fans would be to be in the Big 10?

If we're being honest here, not very. The fans were the ones pushing for the move to the SEC. They wanted to be here, (and especially wanted to do nothing with the big 10 after what happened in the 2010 expansion),

Though to be honest, the Big 10 first came from somewhere in the school...so either some professors or administrators would have been happier, yeah.
 
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And I really don't get why seemingly so many here want them back. They really don't bring a lot to the table. The SEC already has the Atlanta market, Tech's football and basketball programs are rather average albeit they do have good histories.

Honestly I don't see why all 3 are mentioned. I get from a pure football "Southern" type perspective, they fit but nothing else about it does.

Agree.

I think it's the first part of the last sentence, like you said.
 

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