Sec teams Hurting themselves?

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#3
It's pretty well-known that's the case. People always try and look at numbers or statistics to judge the strength of a conference or a team, I think that can easily be misleading. The only way to truly know is to look on the field.

IMO, in the post-Spurrier era, the SEC has been loaded at the top half with a bunch of very, very good teams, but no great teams with the exception of '03 LSU and '04 Auburn.

Those two teams doing what they did still proves great teams can and do make it through the SEC without a loss. It takes a complete team.
 
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tidwell said:
LSU didn't make it through without a loss in 2003, though.
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Still got voted in by the BCS to play for the national title. They did really well in the SEC aside from the Florida game... Ole Miss was close, too. But still, if you beat the state of Alabama 58-10, 'speck.
 
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My thoughts is the article is exactly correct. I feel that each year the SEC teams hurt each other by such stiff competition. I think that IF a SEC team makes it out of the conference and CG undefeated they should be in the Nat Champ Game.
 
#9
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been telling my non-SEC friends this for years when they try and rag on the SEC for not producing NC's left and right.
 
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Auburns 13-0 year and getting left out of the national championship game was a prime example why we need some type of playoff system.
 
#12
#12
you know, i've thought about this, and Milo and i have had similar discussions about the top half of the SEC...in this day and age, given that there are 6 legit contenders for this league's title just about every year, to me, winning the SEC title is the only thing any SEC team should really consider important.

the simple fact is that we do beat up on each other, there are very good teams at the top, and they all play each other..so something has to give.

For this season...if a UF or Auburn were to go undefeated, i just can't see how you can leave them out of the NT game. having said that, and given that there will likely be two undefeated teams at the end, a one loss SEC team doesn't stand a chance...

I'd like to see how Aburn, UF, LSU, TN etc...would do in another BCS league...not saying they'd go undefeated...but it would come down to likely only 1 or 2 games in the other leauges vs. 3-4 games in the SEC. And that's the great part about the SEC.

the Big 10--OSU/Michigan...yeah, Iowa was a nice story and all..but did anyone really think they were going to win? that was hype generated by ABC/ESPN so you'd tune in.

big 12..TX/OK...that's it.

Big East...WVU/L'ville...that's it.

ACC...uh...this year i'm not sure if there are any big games?

Pac 10--ORE/CAL, ORE/USC, CAL/USC...

SEC--TN/UF, UF/LSU, UF/AUB, TN/UGA, UF/UGA, UGA/AUB, TN/LSU, LSU/AUB...is there really any comparison?
 
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KSVOL said:
Auburns 13-0 year and getting left out of the national championship game was a prime example why we need some type of playoff system.
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Also a prime examble of Auburn needing to play decent out of conference games. That was their own fault. Tennessee always has one: Miami, Cal, Notre Dame, Oklahoma in a few years. Florida always has FSU.

Auburn needs to quit with the cupcakes. (Notice what happens when they do schedule a decent out of conference game i.e. Georgia Tech.)
 
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rockytopscott said:
Also a prime examble of Auburn needing to play decent out of conference games. That was their own fault. Tennessee always has one: Miami, Cal, Notre Dame, Oklahoma in a few years. Florida always has FSU.

Auburn needs to quit with the cupcakes. (Notice what happens when they do schedule a decent out of conference game i.e. Georgia Tech.)
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I agree that they play cupcakes but they still wouldn't have gone. They started the season at #16 while OU and USC were in the top 5. OU and USC never lost -- very doubtful that a better non-conf. schedule would have jumped them over OU or USC.
 
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volinbham said:
I agree that they play cupcakes but they still wouldn't have gone. They started the season at #16 while OU and USC were in the top 5. OU and USC never lost -- very doubtful that a better non-conf. schedule would have jumped them over OU or USC.
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i don't know...the probleme was they didn't get moved up early enough...

take us for instance this year...started in the 20's. Beat a top 10 non conference foe, and were back in the top 15-17....and i think had we beaten florida, we'd be in the top 10 right now.

Auburn that year had no real big games until mid way thru the season...and by that time other teams ranked ahead of them had won some big games.

Mighigan this year is a good example....started off just outside the top ten, got a huge non conf. win over ND, now top 5 and a lot of folks are saying #2 based on early big game victories....

I'm convinced that you can start off so so, but if you have a good schedule and are successful, it won't go overlooked.

By the time Auburn got any attention, it was way too late in the season for them.
 
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absolutely agreed. the sec doesn't produce NC's because the sec has several good teams that beat themselves up.

if there were a playoff system, an SEC team would win the NC'ship probably every other year.

If your acc/pac-10/big10/big12 friends disagree, then tell them to look at the two following things
1) recruiting: go to rivals or scout and see which conference has gotten the best recruits (you can go back as long as they've kept such statistics)....surprise surprise, the SEC dominates in getting the best talent
2) go through the nfl rosters and see where most of the players come from. Again, there are more players in the nfl from the sec than any other conference. I don't have hard numbers on this off hand, but I'm sure they could be produced without too much effort.

Look at what tommy tuberville said in this article.

ESPN.com - NCF - Auburn coach Tuberville calls for playoff system

he is right.
 
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With jakez post in mind about SEC title games, I would rather watch that over any BCS game anyway. Not to mention any of the big SEC matchups that happen throughout the season: TN/UF TN/GA LSU/UF LSU/AU etc rather than an SEC vs other BCS school BCS game. They are just far more compelling. We already have a playoff in the SEC, its called the confrence schedule with the the champ game.
 
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cibai said:
With jakez post in mind about SEC title games, I would rather watch that over any BCS game anyway. Not to mention any of the big SEC matchups that happen throughout the season: TN/UF TN/GA LSU/UF LSU/AU etc rather than an SEC vs other BCS school BCS game. They are just far more compelling. We already have a playoff in the SEC, its called the confrence schedule with the the champ game.
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exactly, and with as many top teams in the conference we have, winnning it really means more than anything...now obviously, if the winner of the conference has a shot at the BCS, that's still a big deal, but considering how top heavy this conference is, winning the SEC is a big deal in and of itself.
 
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Well it is true that the SEC teams hurt themselves but it has always been that way, it will probably always be that way and I enjoy playing in a tough conference. However, the hurt put on them by the pollsters, etc is inexcusable. It will always be extremely difficult to get through an SEC schedule without a loss and when an SEC team does go undefeated it should most probably be in the NC game. Also in a normal season a one loss SEC team probably should be ranked no worse than no. 2.
 
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jakez4ut said:
exactly, and with as many top teams in the conference we have, winnning it really means more than anything...now obviously, if the winner of the conference has a shot at the BCS, that's still a big deal, but considering how top heavy this conference is, winning the SEC is a big deal in and of itself.
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#22
#22
Good article. But it doesn't say anything that SEC fans don't already know. The SEC is the best. I always said that Southern Cal wouldn't have had that long unbeaten streak if they had to play in the SEC. I am glad though to see that the SEC is getting some deserved national respect as the best conference in the land. I agree with those of you that've said that going through the SEC undefeated should guarantee a spot in the BCS national championship game.

Now we're getting some love from SI as well. :dance2: :rock:
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