SEC vs. Expanded Big Ten?

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I believe the style of football we play in the SEC, along with the fact that the SEC territory is where a majority of the top athletes live, is the reason why the SEC is so dominant. Just because the Big 10 expands, I dont believe the SEC has to in order to maintain its dominance. IMO they can have 50 teams and still not be at the level of competition of the SEC. Even if the SEC ends up with less teams than other conferences, it would be like an elite club that just keeps everyone wanting to be a part of it. Just my opinion,,, yours?
 
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I think the elite club that everyone wants to be part of is the one that hands out the most money.
 
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The Big Ten will have more market power than the SEC if they expand and the SEC doesn't. That is the bottom line.
 
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I made up a quick "fantasy" expanded SEC that I would like to see in a dream world where the SEC is 16 teams.

It would look like this:

SEC East:
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Florida
Miami
Florida State

SEC West:
LSU
Auburn
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Arkansas
Alabama
Texas
Oklahoma

With this setup each division would have 4-5 power teams each year. The East would have Florida, Miami, Florida State, Tennessee, and Georgia. The West would have LSU, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, and maybe Auburn. Right now the SEC West would be the tougher division but historically each would have teams that should provide for great competition in the future. I agree the SEC doesn't really need to expand but if they do they could create a super conference. :)

Remember this is my "fantasy" situation of the SEC expanding and yes I know it will likely never look like this.
 
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ihateflorida said:
I believe the style of football we play in the SEC, along with the fact that the SEC territory is where a majority of the top athletes live, is the reason why the SEC is so dominant. Just because the Big 10 expands, I dont believe the SEC has to in order to maintain its dominance. IMO they can have 50 teams and still not be at the level of competition of the SEC. Even if the SEC ends up with less teams than other conferences, it would be like an elite club that just keeps everyone wanting to be a part of it. Just my opinion,,, yours?
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This all depends on who the Big 10 adds. I really don't fear Big 10 expansion into Missouri and Nebraska. They're going after Mizzou to get the St. Louis market, but the program isn't anything special. Nebraska is good historically and has a solid fanbase. But the SEC would still be better.
 
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The quality of football being played is not the key factor in the end --

The SEC could be miles better in overall talent and quality of football being played, but if the Big Ten expands and the SEC doesn't, then the Big Ten will be making far more money. This has nothing to do with who is better at football.
 
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Follow the money. Rule of thumb. Who brings the most to the table is who will be added, if at all
 
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milohimself said:
The quality of football being played is not the key factor in the end --

The SEC could be miles better in overall talent and quality of football being played, but if the Big Ten expands and the SEC doesn't, then the Big Ten will be making far more money. This has nothing to do with who is better at football.
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What was the question, which conference will be better, or who will bring in more money? I agree, it's two separate issues. I was answering the former.
 
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milohimself said:
the quality of football being played is not the key factor in the end --

the sec could be miles better in overall talent and quality of football being played, but if the big ten expands and the sec doesn't, then the big ten will be making far more money. This has nothing to do with who is better at football.
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bingo
 
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The SEC is the better football league, but not by much. Big Ten expansion could possibly help in luring some of the talent from the south but in reality it will about the same. The top teams in the Big 10 and SEC will still be NC caliber with loads of NFL talent. Expansion has everything to do with making money. Right now Big 10 teams pocket 22 million per year a peice from the TV contract. Expansion could push that number over 30 million per team. Big may not be the better on the field, but they can write the bigger check for sure.
 
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jlovevols said:
What was the question, which conference will be better, or who will bring in more money? I agree, it's two separate issues. I was answering the former.
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Hmm... Obviously depends on who gets added. If they poach Big East teams, then the SEC stays on top. If they get Nebraska, ND and Pitt, then I'd say the SEC still holds the edge but it becomes debatable.
 
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It really looks like super conferences are being formed,,,

I think the SEC has to move to 16 teams to stay lead dog.
Just like the big 10 is shooting for ND, SEC would be shooting for Texas and OK which would leave all doubt about which conference is best - and the TV contract would be HUUUUUUUUUGE.
 
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If the SEC did pick up Texas and Oklahoma, I'd imagine there would be some immediate talk about restructuring the post season. Having 3-4 national champion caliber teams in one conference every year would be overwhelming.

Also, there was some talk about the Big Ten restructuring into 4 team divisions if they moved to 16 teams. I think that would be a great idea.
 
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I don't. Texas makes their own money, and can basically dictate the terms of their contract as long as they're the centerpiece of a conference like they are now with the Big XII. I presume it will stay that way, and that Oklahoma will be paired with Texas wherever that happens. This pairing will also carry A&M and Okie Lite. I can see the BXII North being disbanded, but the south will probably stay as is and poach area C-USA teams reforming something like the old SWC, if Nebraska/Mizzou/Colorado/ISU/Kansas/KSU are absorbed into the Big Ten and Pac-10.
 
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Without Texas the SEC has a very small chance to expand. Hard to imagine the 12 existing members settling for less annual revenue to add extra competition. Only Texas or Notre Dame would bring enough star power to get the CBS and ESPN contracts renegotiated.
 
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