Senator Collins blasts Obama for whitewashing Fort Hood masacre.

[gsvol]

Lawmakers Blast Administration For Calling Fort Hood Massacre 'Workplace Violence' | Fox News

During a joint session of the Senate and House Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday, the Maine Republican referenced a letter from the Defense Department depicting the Fort Hood shootings as workplace violence. She criticized the Obama administration for failing to identify the threat as radical Islam.

Thirteen people were killed and dozens more wounded at Fort Hood in 2009, and the number of alleged plots targeting the military has grown significantly since then. Lawmakers said there have been 33 plots against the U.S. military since Sept. 11, 2001, and 70 percent of those threats have been since mid-2009.
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Contressman King, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, said "There is a serious threat within the military from people who have enlisted who are radical jihadists," ....
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King emphasized. "There's a definite threat from Islamic radicalization in various parts of our society, including within the military, and we can't allow political correctness to keep us from exposing this threat for what it is."

I submit that if not for political correctness Hasan would never been in the position to commit his crime.

 

[RespectTradition]

I submit that if not for political correctness Hasan would never been in the position to commit his crime.

Just curious.

Do you agree with FDR's decision on the Japanese-American internment camps in WWII?

 

[volinbham]

"workplace violence" - I'll say

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Just curious.

Do you agree with FDR's decision on the Japanese-American internment camps in WWII?

This. I've been curious as well.

 

[gsvol]

"workplace violence" - I'll say

Or a jihad murder being labled a 'drive by?'

Also testifying in the same hearings were Daris Long and Marvin Bledsoe.

Long served as a Marine officer and his son, Pvt William Andrew Long was shot to death outside a recruitment center in Little Rock, Ark by Abdulhakim Muhaddad in an act of islamo/fascist terrorism and isn't even deemed elegible for a Purple Heart because it was deemed a 'drive by' shooting.

Marine Daris Long testified; "If you kill in this country under the banner of jihad, we're told it isn't terrorism, and federal judicial response is neither confirmed nor denied." ... "The political correctness exibited by our government over offending anyone in admitting the truth about islamic extremism masked alarm bells that were going off, ...."

Also testifying was Marvin Bledsoe the father of Carlos Bledsoe who was raised in Memphis, attended TSU in Nashville, began to attend the islamic center in Nashvile and was converted to islam.

He changed his name to Muhammad, attended the islamic training camp in Dover, Tennessee and then went to Yemen before returning and shooting down two uniformed servicemen in Arkansas outside a recruitment center in a cowardly manner without any warning, shooting at least one in the back, leaving one dead and one paralysed for life.

Mr Bledsoe testified; "the federal government dropped the ball on this, and it's about time that they tell the truth," ...., "If truth was told, we'd both know why we lost oursons." Bledsoe said the FBI followed his sons moves for years but never told the family.

Just curious.

Do you agree with FDR's decision on the Japanese-American internment camps in WWII?

I don't know of one thing the FDR did that I agree with.

NOT EVEN ONE!

So instead of trying to paint me as some sort of racist, how about you adressing the double talk of the Obama administration?

 

[therealUT]

For GS only.

NEWINGTON — Mayhem erupted when a man ran through the Fox Run Mall Thursday, smashing display cases and glass storefronts with a hammer as he babbled incoherently, police and witnesses said.

Only one person was injured by falling glass, but witnesses described a chaotic scene in which some people feared a gunman was on the loose. Selim Mohammad, 34, of Dover, was arrested without incident inside the mall for felony criminal mischief.

The ruckus began at Kay Jewelers around 4:45 p.m., when the man smashed several display cases, none of which broke because they are safety glass. He then sprinted to nearby jewelry store Pandora, where he succeeded in bashing in numerous display cases as employees screamed and huddled in a back room, said Peter Gerges, who works at a nearby kiosk and watched the scene unfold.

The man even told Pandora’s employees not to worry, Gerges said.

“He’s like, ‘Don’t panic ladies, I’m not gonna hurt no one,’” Gerges said.

As the smashing began, some people panicked, said Matt Pilar, who works at the shoe store Journeys.

“There were people down there that were screaming and dropping down because they thought it was gunfire,” he said.

Joe Allen, an employee at the T-Mobile kiosk next to Kay, said he and several others chased the man as he smashed display cases at Zales before he ran through the mall and slipped in front of Pretzel Time. Allen said he and three others surrounded the man as he got up from the spill and reacted wildly.

“He’s just swinging it around,” Allen said of the hammer.

The man then walked over and smashed windows at Sleep Number, Yankee Candle, Motherhood Maternity and The Limited before sitting down on a bench outside Victoria’s Secret and tossing the claw hammer aside, Allen said.

“He said, ‘Allahu-Akbar,’” Allen said of the man.

Fire Chief Dale Sylvia said all seven stores affected have been shut down for safety reasons and won’t be allowed to reopen until they’ve been inspected. Glass was strewn everywhere at The Limited and Motherhood Maternity, where storefronts were obliterated.

Allen said the man was speaking incoherently. He and others tried unsuccessfully to calm him, he said.

“Honestly, I got more scared when he threw the hammer down and sat down,” Allen said. “I was nervous he had a gun.”

Newington police Sgt. Tim Stuart said Mohammad was “cooperative and polite” as he was arrested.

“The gentleman obviously has some issues,” Stuart said.

Allen said that when police arrived, the man told them everything that just happened.

“The cops showed up and he told them exactly what he did,” Allen said.

“He was just nuts; it’s this time of year, I think.”

What do you make of this, GS?

 

[gsvol]

For GS only.



What do you make of this, GS?

I'd say it's one of two things;

1. He was desperate for a pair of diamond ear studs, or

2. Just another random jihad syndrome event.

What do you make of this:

Hollywood: Gunman shouting "Allahu akbar" fires upon random passersby at Sunset and Vine - Jihad Watch

A gunman pointed his weapon at more than a dozen people Friday as he randomly opened fire on drivers and pedestrians in Hollywood before being fatally shot by Los Angeles Police Department officers.

This guy was also very polite when apprehended.

Of course we know any major media outlet will leave out the 'allahu akbar' part of the incident.

"workplace violence" - I'll say

 

[lawgator1]

So when an imbalanced political conservative takes a gun and shoots people at a gathering for Rep. Giffords he's clearly mentally ill and politics has nothing to do with it, but when a nut who is Islamic does something, it is obviously not his own lunatic action but instead is part of the web of Islamic extremism?

Got it !

 

[therealUT]

I'd say it's one of two things;

2. Just another random jihad syndrome event.

Would you say that said man is a Muslim terrorist?

 

[lawgator1]

Would you say that said man is a Muslim terrorist?

Said man was sad.

 

[hndog609]

So when an imbalanced political conservative takes a gun and shoots people at a gathering for Rep. Giffords he's clearly mentally ill and politics has nothing to do with it, but when a nut who is Islamic does something, it is obviously not his own lunatic action but instead is part of the web of Islamic extremism?

Got it !

Could you provide any credible link to anything that actually paints Loughner as a "political conservative", imbalanced or otherwise?

 

[gsvol]

So when an imbalanced political conservative takes a gun and shoots people at a gathering for Rep. Giffords he's clearly mentally ill and politics has nothing to do with it, but when a nut who is Islamic does something, it is obviously not his own lunatic action but instead is part of the web of Islamic extremism?

Got it !

The dude that shot Giffords and killed several others, including a conservative Republican Federal Judge was about as politically conservative as you are.

Meaning not at all.

Sura (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Sura (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"

Would you say that said man is a Muslim terrorist?

He was a muslim jihadist, you can call him terrorist or not.

BTW, the man shot in his car in Hollywood by a man shouting 'alahu akbar' has since died.

Could you provide any credible link to anything that actually paints Loughner as a "political conservative", imbalanced or otherwise?

Hell no, he is only interested in creating and perpetuating further his liberal progressive urban myths and defending politically correct speech.

And another thing, milo said that the next poster to start a thread calling out another poster would be permanently banned and no amount of requests to Volfreak could get him unbanned.

Today, ACLG started another thread calling me out and what happened?

Not a damned thing. :loco:

 

[Heebs]

I don't see how Hassan avoids being called a Muslim extremist in this situation. I may be late to the party but defending him to defend the democrats is pretty gutless.

 

[therealUT]

He was a muslim jihadist, you can call him terrorist or not.

Okay. I doctored that story. The man's name was not Selim Mohommad, it was Michael Williams. He was not saying "Allahu-Akbar" he was saying "God". He was not a Muslim; he was a man with mental problems; however, you very quickly jumped to the he is a "Muslim jihadist" position, even though there are several cues in the report that point to mental instability.

Thanks for playing, GS.

 

[YorkVol]

Only one person was injured by falling glass, but witnesses described a chaotic scene in which some people feared a gunman was on the loose. Selim Mohammad, 34, of Dover, was arrested without incident inside the mall for felony criminal mischief.

Islamic Training Camp in Dover

As a career intelligence officer, I'm seeing a trend. We need to find this Dover place....

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Okay. I doctored that story. The man's name was not Selim Mohommad, it was Michael Williams. He was not saying "Allahu-Akbar" he was saying "God". He was not a Muslim; he was a man with mental problems; however, you very quickly jumped to the he is a "Muslim jihadist" position, even though there are several cues in the report that point to mental instability.

Thanks for playing, GS.

****ing awesome.

 

[gsvol]

I don't see how Hassan avoids being called a Muslim extremist in this situation. I may be late to the party but defending him to defend the democrats is pretty gutless.

Well Hassan was a member of the Obama presidential transition team you know?

Okay. I doctored that story. The man's name was not Selim Mohommad, it was Michael Williams. He was not saying "Allahu-Akbar" he was saying "God". He was not a Muslim; he was a man with mental problems; however, you very quickly jumped to the he is a "Muslim jihadist" position, even though there are several cues in the report that point to mental instability.

Thanks for playing, GS.

So in your world of moral relativism you equate one act by a deranged man to negate the common denominator of tens of thousands of such acts on a world wide basis perpetuated in the name of islamic jihad each year?

I think those people are deranged also but don't think it wise to just smooth it over, ignore it and think that it is going to go away soon if I just look the other way.

As a career intelligence officer, I'm seeing a trend. We need to find this Dover place....

Carreer intelligence officer with whom?

Clue one, Dover is in Stewart County.

Tennessee Trained American Jihadist Guns Down Two Soldiers In Little Rock - Conservative Crusader

The problem with Islamic terrorism is the fact that although an individual may carry out an attack all alone, as a single man terror cell, they are by no means alone. Police said he shot these young men for “religious & political” reasons...
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Forty minutes from Nashville and 12 miles from the main gate to Ft. Campbell military base, home to the 101st Airborne, is a Muslim Terror training compound operated by known terror organization Jamaat ul-Fuqra, in Dover, Tennessee.

In March of 2005, The Center for Policing Terrorism issued a dossier on the nationwide network and international connections of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, including in Dover Tennessee. Their cells include the Black Muslim Orthodox Movement, Muslims of the Americas and Open International Quranic Universities.

Jamaat ul-Fuqra is a Pakistan based terror organization formed and led by Sheik Mubarek Ali Shah Gilani. The group has known ties to Al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad and the Muslim Brotherhood. The counter-terrorism dossier states – “Al-Fuqra members, individually and collectively, have shown a willingness to work with other violent organizations to achieve common goals.”

Dover is one of 36 KNOWN Jamaat ul-Fuqra training camps.

The above link goes on:

Special Agent John Guandolo of the Federal Bureau of Investigations: A decorated U.S. Marine combat veteran of Desert Storm, Special Agent Guandolo has worked in the FBI since 1996 including nine years as a member of its SWAT team.

In October 2007, Guandolo sounded a warning that has largely been ignored by DHS and the FBI. “Every major Muslim organization is controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood,” which he went on to say, “was formed to overthrow America and establish Islamic law.”

Guandolo said that Muslim groups will demand concessions on matters by saying, “You have to do this; you have to do this or I will be offended.” - “If you are looking to DHS, the FBI and Congress to solve this … you’re going to be woefully disappointed.”

“FBI agents in the field are working good cases, but that the FBI leadership is unwilling to do what the agents are asking them to do, which is to pony up and use some courage and start stepping on these people.”
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Obama’s new DHS has been embroiled in a controversy over its recent attempts to label constitutionalist, right-to-life folks and American soldiers and veterans as some new breed of “domestic terrorists.”

The left-wing American press ran out of ink covering the murder of a baby-killer this past Sunday, but has so far had little to say about the Jihadist attack on two young American soldiers fresh out of boot camp, who were simply taking a break in front of a Little Rock recruiting center.

“This is political subversion, this is an insurgency in the United States,” Guandolo warned of the Islamic movement. “Insurgency is thwarted at the local level and the tip of the spear is local police.” And so far, it looks like the movement has help from the Obama administration and DHS.

 

[PKT_VOL]

Okay. I doctored that story. The man's name was not Selim Mohommad, it was Michael Williams. He was not saying "Allahu-Akbar" he was saying "God". He was not a Muslim; he was a man with mental problems; however, you very quickly jumped to the he is a "Muslim jihadist" position, even though there are several cues in the report that point to mental instability.

Thanks for playing, GS.

Fantastic.

 

[NEO]

Okay. I doctored that story. The man's name was not Selim Mohommad, it was Michael Williams. He was not saying "Allahu-Akbar" he was saying "God". He was not a Muslim; he was a man with mental problems; however, you very quickly jumped to the he is a "Muslim jihadist" position, even though there are several cues in the report that point to mental instability.

Thanks for playing, GS.

TRUT, anybody could see the softball you threw was doctored.

But it is still sad that no matter what happens you will defend muslim actions. The Fort Hood shooting was thought out.

There are crazy people all around that believe in all sorts of gods. This is not the case with Fort Hood.

You lose alot of logical ground because you lump crazy (and the crusades many times) into modern day problems that do exist with sect of Muslims.

 

[PKT_VOL]

TRUT, anybody could see the softball you threw was doctored.

But it is still sad that no matter what happens you will defend muslim actions. The Fort Hood shooting was thought out.

There are crazy people all around that believe in all sorts of gods. This is not the case with Fort Hood.

You lose alot of logical ground because you lump crazy (and the crusades many times) into modern day problems that do exist with sect of Muslims.

You have me intrigued. I am listening.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

TRUT, anybody could see the softball you threw was doctored.

But it is still sad that no matter what happens you will defend muslim actions. The Fort Hood shooting was thought out.

There are crazy people all around that believe in all sorts of gods. This is not the case with Fort Hood.

You lose alot of logical ground because you lump crazy (and the crusades many times) into modern day problems that do exist with sect of Muslims.

Yet you separate the fanaticism of Christianity from that of Muslims. It's the same ethnic, nationalist philosophy. The only difference is written language, recent actions, and skin color.

Seriously.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

So in your world of moral relativism you equate one act by a deranged man to negate the common denominator of tens of thousands of such acts on a world wide basis perpetuated in the name of islamic jihad each year?

I think those people are deranged also but don't think it wise to just smooth it over, ignore it and think that it is going to go away soon if I just look the other way.

You were had just like the rest of us reading the article. Just admit that your foot was 2 feet down your throat. It's okay. We'll all still think you're an informal Richard.

 

[gsvol]

Said man was sad.

Said man was mad.
You are sad.

:cray:

As a career intelligence officer, I'm seeing a trend. We need to find this Dover place....

You didn't ever say what your area of intelligence work was in.

I was in inteligence myself one day.

Didn't want to stay in and didn't want to work in Washington DC so I didn't make a carreer of it.

See if you can connect the dots between islamic training centers and islamo/fascist terrorist acts in America.

Remember the Oklahoma City federal building bombing?

Twenty short miles south of Oklahoma City, the jihadist vipers were planning and training for years in Norman, home of the University of Oklahoma. There, at the Airman Flight School, Zacharias Moussaoui, Ziad Jarrah,Ihab Mohammed Ali, Majahid Maenepta(aka Melvin Lattimore) learned their deadly trade. There were visits from other terror villains: Mohammad Atta, Marwan al Shehhi, and Salem al Hamzi, all of whom visited Norman, Oklahoma. Nick Berg, the American beheaded in Iraq by al-Zarqawi in 2204, had contact with these guys in Norman back in 1993. Menepta was ID’d one block from the Murrah building on the day of the bombing. His credit card was used in WTC. The bomb design and execution was of a pedigree evident in WTC 1 and other middle eastern attacks.This must all just be one really, really big coincidence.

We are told by the current crop of expert dildos in Washington to be on the lookout for homegrown terrorists that resemble ex service members or rural people (kulaks) that cling (stick) to their guns and religion (provided said religion is Christianity, especially if they complain about big government and big brother.

Do you see a trend here yet?

If you can connect enough dots, and you should be quite capable of that, being a carreer intelligence officer, you should get the picture.

You have me intrigued. I am listening.

While we wait, would you care to give your own thought on Hassan?

Yet you separate the fanaticism of Christianity from that of Muslims. It's the same ethnic, nationalist philosophy. The only difference is written language, recent actions, and skin color.

Seriously.

You were had just like the rest of us reading the article. Just admit that your foot was 2 feet down your throat. It's okay. We'll all still think you're an informal Richard.

Thank you much, I have both feet solidly on the ground just fine.
You have your head where only the colonosotomy scope would shinte.

 

[Bezdomny]

So when an imbalanced political conservative takes a gun and shoots people at a gathering for Rep. Giffords he's clearly mentally ill and politics has nothing to do with it, but when a nut who is Islamic does something, it is obviously not his own lunatic action but instead is part of the web of Islamic extremism?

Got it !

How did you come to the conclusion that Loughner is a conservative?

 

[lawgator1]

So in your world of moral relativism you equate one act by a deranged man to negate the common denominator of tens of thousands of such acts on a world wide basis perpetuated in the name of islamic jihad each year?

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