Sensitive Info Released to Film Makers...

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volinbham

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...doing a pre-election movie about the killing of Bin Laden.

Some pretty crazy stuff here - access and names revealed by WH, CIA and Pentagon to film makers.

More to come on this one

Pentagon, CIA, White House opened up to Hollywood on bin Laden raid - POLITICO.com

Just weeks after Pentagon and Central Intelligence Agency officials warned publicly of the dangers posed by leaks about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, top officials at both agencies and at the White House granted Hollywood filmmakers unusual access to those involved in planning the raid and some of the methods they used to do it, newly released government records show.
At a briefing in July 2011, Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Mike Vickers told filmmakers Michael Boal and Kathryn Bigelow that the leaders of the the Special Operations Command couldn't speak to them for appearances' sake. However, Vickers said that the Pentagon would make available a Navy SEAL who was involved in planning the raid from its earliest stages.
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The Pentagon is now withholding from the public and the press the same name DoD gave the filmmakers. The response sent to Judicial Watch explains the deletion by citing privacy concerns as well as a statute allowing the Secretary of Defense to protect the names of members of "routinely deployable" and "sensitive" units. It is unclear whether the court will uphold such a withholding given that the name was already disclosed to a member of the public by a senior official, apparently with some forethought.
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"The email messages indicate that the filmmakers were allowed an unprecedented visit to a classified facility so secret that its name is redacted in the released email. If this facility is so secret that the name cannot even be seen by the public, then why in the world would the Obama Administration allow filmmakers to tour it?"
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"The redaction suggests the disclosure of the Seal Team Six leader's name to Bigelow and Boal was improper," Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton told POLITICO Tuesday night.
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Several instances of redacted info in the emails released via FOIA but shared with the film makers.

Sure looks like the WH was anxious to have a Bin Laden killing movie out before the election
 
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This issue has already been released once a few weeks ago and the msm killed it. Karl Rove and his PAC need to run with it.
 
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volinbham said:
...doing a pre-election movie about the killing of Bin Laden.

Some pretty crazy stuff here - access and names revealed by WH, CIA and Pentagon to film makers.

More to come on this one

Pentagon, CIA, White House opened up to Hollywood on bin Laden raid - POLITICO.com


Several instances of redacted info in the emails released via FOIA but shared with the film makers.

Sure looks like the WH was anxious to have a Bin Laden killing movie out before the election
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Again VBH, I agree with the outrage, but the Bush Admin was one of the worst about calssifying and de-classifying information for political purposes.

That doesn't make what the Obama Admin is doing any more right, but it doesn't make them any different either.
 
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seems to be a big difference here with BHO, has he not put soldiers' lives in danger
 
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rjd970 said:
Again VBH, I agree with the outrage, but the Bush Admin was one of the worst about calssifying and de-classifying information for political purposes.

That doesn't make what the Obama Admin is doing any more right, but it doesn't make them any different either.
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No doubt on the second point and I'm not outraged on the first point.

I'm more just disappointed in general that this is what our government does - seems so sleazy just to stay in power.
 
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T-TownVol said:
seems to be a big difference here with BHO, has he not put soldiers' lives in danger
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I don't know about that. The underwear bomber double agent leak was worse by far but I don't think we know the leaker yet on that one.

This just strikes me as unseemly more than anything. Kinda like the additions to the presidential bios - it's almost used car salesman tactics. Anything to get elected.
 
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knowing this is basically a propaganda film makes it less likely I will go see it. That's a shame too
 
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volinbham said:
I don't know about that. The underwear bomber double agent leak was worse by far but I don't think we know the leaker yet on that one.

This just strikes me as unseemly more than anything. Kinda like the additions to the presidential bios - it's almost used car salesman tactics. Anything to get elected.
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using names of Seals and locations in the e-mails and such puts them in danger imo
 
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I'm sure we'll see an investigation similar to the one conducted re: Valerie plame
 
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T-TownVol said:
seems to be a big difference here with BHO, has he not put soldiers' lives in danger
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Hard to say. Depending on what specifically was declassified may contain sources or capabilities to those who know what to look for and appropriate measures could be taken that would cost American lives. I don't think it is fair to say only BHO was putting lives in danger.

It doesn't make it right either way, no matter who is doing it and what the consequences may or may not be.
 
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utvolpj said:
without knowing the intentions of the filmmakers I wouldn't say it's 100%. They will have some license but are still working within the info given to them by the admin
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they are both HUGE BHO supporters + holding it until right before election, but lets give them the benefit of the doubt
 
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rjd970 said:
Hard to say. Depending on what specifically was declassified may contain sources or capabilities to those who know what to look for and appropriate measures could be taken that would cost American lives. I don't think it is fair to say only BHO was putting lives in danger.

It doesn't make it right either way, no matter who is doing it and what the consequences may or may not be.
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I would give you a ddd but I know how much you hate that :)
 
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Given the fact we had a good idea where UBL was almost a year before the raid plus the facts that we were planning in earnest as early as January 2011, doing full on mission rehearsals in March etc, yet there was not one leak of the mission prior to the actual raid means that the government does a pretty good job keeping secrets. Therefore, every slip and leak can only be seen as deliberate.
 
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From the FOIA uncovered documents

Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Michael Vickers told Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Douglas Wilson and two other DOD communications staffers in a June 13, 2011, email that “[DOD] would like to shape the story to prevent any gross inaccuracies, but do not want to make it look like the commanders think it’s okay to talk to the media.” The email went on to say: “For the intelligence case, they are basically using the WH-approved talking points we used the night of the operation.” The talking points called the raid “a ‘Gutsy Decision’ by the POTUS,” adding that “WH involvement was critical.”
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Judicial Watch Obtains DOD and CIA Records Detailing Meetings with bin Laden Raid Filmmakers | Judicial Watch
 
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