Shoop's recruiting abilities

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Good question. I recall him being pretty involved with Kongbo, albeit late in the game. I knew he was the main reason Wade was high on us but seems that ship has sailed.

He just doesn't seem to have much personality...which can be a killer in the living room.
 
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I'm afraid Shoop is the second coming of Sunseri--we'll see. Seems he's worked under really good defensive minded head coaches--most notably Franklin.I just didn't see it in this last season.

Yes, he had a bunch of injuries, but the mechanics and training looked very familiar with Dooley's last year. Something doesn't look right here.
 
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I'm afraid Shoop is the second coming of Sunseri--we'll see. Seems he's worked under really good defensive minded head coaches--most notably Franklin.I just didn't see it in this last season.

Yes, he had a bunch of injuries, but the mechanics and training looked very familiar with Dooley's last year. Something doesn't look right here.


Lol....Franklin has never been a defensive minded coach. I think the only time he coached defense was as a DB coach somewhere in the mid 90's.
 
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Lol....Franklin has never been a defensive minded coach. I think the only time he coached defense was as a DB coach somewhere in the mid 90's.

You're right. Mea Culpa. I still think the same about Shoop, though. I hope I'm wrong--time will tell.
 
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Lol....Franklin has never been a defensive minded coach. I think the only time he coached defense was as a DB coach somewhere in the mid 90's.

why think, when you can do the research online? Pretty in depth knowledge on James Franklin though, kudos on remembering that little known fact. It was East Stroudsburg, I think, where he coached DB's. lol
 
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Shoop's job is to coach. Assistants do the heavy lifting on the trail.

I don't care what his recruiting ranking is but he needs to fix this defense.
 
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I'm afraid Shoop is the second coming of Sunseri--we'll see. Seems he's worked under really good defensive minded head coaches--most notably Franklin.I just didn't see it in this last season.

Yes, he had a bunch of injuries, but the mechanics and training looked very familiar with Dooley's last year. Something doesn't look right here.
OK. Give this some thought as you're comparing peanuts with coconuts. First off Senseri came into Knoxville switching the whole scheme from a 4-3 to a 3-4. He came in as a LB coach and moved to DC for the first time...never had a track record as a coordinator. Second, Franklin had no say over Shoop with his defenses. Nada. Third: The 43 defense requires the DTs moving the O-linemen out of the way of the LBs (opening gaps) so they can make the plays. Minus Shy and Mac and Danny, there weren't any fellas aside from Vickers with enough SEC beef to open those gaps. Further, LB bench warmers just won't have the anticipation and SEC ability to fill whatever gaps might miraculously pop open. With zilch for pressure on the opposing QBs, the secondary fellas (who were also left with only bench warmers) were forced to play chase all day while the QBs could pick and choose among every one of their options. Running lanes were easy to make against these guys. Posters on here keep mentioning teams like UF and Vandy and whomever else who'd lost some players, yet still won some tough games, yet seem to be deaf, dumb and blind to the fact that team 120 has just gone through boatloads more than those teams did; one of the most catastrophic injury plagues that any team has gone through in NCAA history. Shoop will show you negas and the rest of the sports world that he is, indeed, one of the brightest defensive minds in the game today. GBO! AMIRIGHT?:yes:
 
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OK. Give this some thought as you're comparing peanuts with coconuts. First off Senseri came into Knoxville switching the whole scheme from a 4-3 to a 3-4. He came in as a LB coach and moved to DC for the first time...never had a track record as a coordinator. Second, Franklin had no say over Shoop with his defenses. Nada. Third: The 43 defense requires the DTs moving the O-linemen out of the way of the LBs (opening gaps) so they can make the plays. Minus Shy and Mac and Danny, there weren't any fellas aside from Vickers with enough SEC beef to open those gaps. Further, LB bench warmers just won't have the anticipation and SEC ability to fill whatever gaps might miraculously pop open. With zilch for pressure on the opposing QBs, the secondary fellas (who were also left with only bench warmers) were forced to play chase all day while the QBs could pick and choose among every one of their options. Running lanes were easy to make against these guys. Posters on here keep mentioning teams like UF and Vandy and whomever else who'd lost some players, yet still won some tough games, yet seem to be deaf, dumb and blind to the fact that team 120 has just gone through boatloads more than those teams did; one of the most catastrophic injury plagues that any team has gone through in NCAA history. Shoop will show you negas and the rest of the sports world that he is, indeed, one of the brightest defensive minds in the game today. GBO! AMIRIGHT?:yes:

I really hope Butch lets Shoop just do his thing. I have said before, Butch and Shoop need to have a Ditka/Ryan type of relationship.
 
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Shoop takes underrated players and they play above their head in his system.

It appeared just the opposite to me this year. Some of our highest rated players severely underperforming on the field, even when the injuries are taken into consideration. Players not knowing where to line up, tons of missed tackles, etc. Biggest concern to me was our CB's getting beat playing man coverage or getting PI penalties, and they stayed in that same coverage when they obviously were having problems.

All fixable, and I hope he can get this turned around quickly!
 
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I'm afraid Shoop is the second coming of Sunseri--we'll see. Seems he's worked under really good defensive minded head coaches--most notably Franklin.I just didn't see it in this last season.

Yes, he had a bunch of injuries, but the mechanics and training looked very familiar with Dooley's last year. Something doesn't look right here.

Not even close. It's just like a comparison between Dooley and Butch. Shoop has proven to be a good SC. I shake my head at what I read on here sometimes.
 

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