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So, alot of 1st and 2nd year SEC coaches got big upset wins on Saturday. Looking at it objectively, whose do you think was the biggest?

I'd say Malzahn's over Texas A&M was the biggest. It really showed how far he has brought that program in the short time he's been HC, winning over an opponent that destroyed them last year and climbing in the top 25 rankings. And it demonstrated what his offensive scheme could accomplish with even less than spectacular talent.

I'd put our's a close 2nd. It was a great win, plain and simple. We beat the #11 team in the nation, you can't help but be impressed with it.

Ole Miss' win was huge for them too. I know Vanderbilt's win was huge for their fans, simply because it's such a rarity, but that Georgia team has sort of entered a tailspin in recent weeks.

What do you think?
 
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Living in Nashville, and as happy as I was driving back from Knoxville, hearing that Vanderbilt beat Georgia was kind of a downer. Their fans are ridiculous, and they think James Franklin can walk on water. It is about time they get slapped back down to reality. If we do not win another game this year, we absolutely must get that one.
 
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PayingUTKTuition said:
Living in Nashville, and as happy as I was driving back from Knoxville, hearing that Vanderbilt beat Georgia was kind of a downer. Their fans are ridiculous, and they think James Franklin can walk on water. It is about time they get slapped back down to reality. If we do not win another game this year, we absolutely must get that one.
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Agreed. The only thing that could really make this season into a bad one at this point is a loss to Vanderbilt.
 
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Even though A&M is vastly overrated, i'd agree about Malzahn. That team was horrible.
 
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Auburn was terrible, but they have way more talent than UT.

Vandy's win over UGA doesn't impress me. UGA is a shadow of their preseason selves. They were bad when we played them, and even worse now.
 
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A&M is just like Georgia. Horrible defense that the offense has to overcome. If the offense or Manziel has an off night, they're losing.

Georgia is an injured mess right now. Nowhere near the team that beat SC and LSU in September.
 
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I saw a little of the Vandy game. GA had that game in hand.
-bad penalty on 4th down gave Vandy a first down. Clean his with a shoulder was a 15 yd penalty. Horrible call.
-Vandy runs a fake fg for a score
-Ga punter drops a snap on his own 10.
Special teams cost Ga the game
 
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Our win is #1. USCe had no serious flaws in its team to go with a top senior QB, a top RB, fast WR's, and the best defensive player in CFB. They had just routed Arky on the road.

Auburn is #2. A&M is prolific on offense with a Heisman winner at QB. However, their defense appears to be coached by Sal Sunseri.

Ole Miss is #3. Took it to a lethargic LSU team whose QB was exposed for being immobile and unable to read 2 deep safety coverage. Ole Miss was undermanned on D yet they played harder.

Mizzou is #4. All they did was prove they are a legit, good team. UF is down, was on the road and was beat up against LSU even more.

Vandy's was just pure azz luck based on TO's against a UGA that is a shell of the team that started the season.
 
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I made sure I was not a dream that we upset South Carolina and checked scores again. I miss my DVR. Does ESPN FINAL still come on this year? If so how long did they talk about our upset? I bet it was not long.
 
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oregonvol said:
So, alot of 1st and 2nd year SEC coaches got big upset wins on Saturday. Looking at it objectively, whose do you think was the biggest?

I'd say Malzahn's over Texas A&M was the biggest. It really showed how far he has brought that program in the short time he's been HC, winning over an opponent that destroyed them last year and climbing in the top 25 rankings. And it demonstrated what his offensive scheme could accomplish with even less than spectacular talent.

I'd put our's a close 2nd. It was a great win, plain and simple. We beat the #11 team in the nation, you can't help but be impressed with it.

Ole Miss' win was huge for them too. I know Vanderbilt's win was huge for their fans, simply because it's such a rarity, but that Georgia team has sort of entered a tailspin in recent weeks.

What do you think?
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I'd put ours third.

OM over LSU was the biggest to me. They beat the #6 team in the nation.

I'd put Auburn over TAMU simply because Auburn was awful last year and they kept Manziel out at the end. TAMU's defense is horrid though.

We're a close 3rd, but I think the rest of the season is not going to be good to SC. I think they were overrated as usual, and looking at their schedule, I won't be shocked if they end the regular season at 7-5.
 
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Vols4us said:
Our win is #1. USCe had no serious flaws in its team to go with a top senior QB, a top RB, fast WR's, and the best defensive player in CFB. They had just routed Arky on the road.

Auburn is #2. A&M is prolific on offense with a Heisman winner at QB. However, their defense appears to be coached by Sal Sunseri.

Ole Miss is #3. Took it to a lethargic LSU team whose QB was exposed for being immobile and unable to read 2 deep safety coverage. Ole Miss was undermanned on D yet they played harder.

Mizzou is #4. All they did was prove they are a legit, good team. UF is down, was on the road and was beat up against LSU even more.

Vandy's was just pure azz luck based on TO's against a UGA that is a shell of the team that started the season.
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I don't even consider Mizzou's win an upset; they're just better than UF right now.
 
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oregonvol said:
So, alot of 1st and 2nd year SEC coaches got big upset wins on Saturday. Looking at it objectively, whose do you think was the biggest?

I'd say Malzahn's over Texas A&M was the biggest. It really showed how far he has brought that program in the short time he's been HC, winning over an opponent that destroyed them last year and climbing in the top 25 rankings. And it demonstrated what his offensive scheme could accomplish with even less than spectacular talent.

I'd put our's a close 2nd. It was a great win, plain and simple. We beat the #11 team in the nation, you can't help but be impressed with it.

Ole Miss' win was huge for them too. I know Vanderbilt's win was huge for their fans, simply because it's such a rarity, but that Georgia team has sort of entered a tailspin in recent weeks.

What do you think?
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4. Candy over Georgia. The Bulldogs are a train wreck right now. A decent cupcake team would have given them fits yesterday. Oh wait, one did.

3. Ole Miss over LSU. If there is one school in the SEC that hates another team in the SEC, it is Ole Miss hating LSU. Add together our level of hatred for Florida AND Alabama, and double it. The Rebels played a very good LSU team hard, and overcame some mistakes to outlast the Bayou Bengals.

2. Auburn over A&M. Despite the War Eagle's showing last season, Auburn is not as bad of a team as some believe. They have recruited well over the past 4 years, and A&M, especially Manziel, has been buying into their own hype a little too much. However, they are still Texas A&M, and Auburn coming together to bring down the Aggies is very impressive.

1. Tennessee over South Carolina. When you consider the recent history at Tennessee, this is the most impressive of the 4 upsets. Derek Dooley's tenure left the Vols with very little depth and few playmakers, and made winning (against a highly ranked team) a word from a foreign language. 19 straight losses against ranked teams. A whole new coaching staff, a new QB, all new receivers except for Pig, and most importantly, a team wide loss of confidence. Beating the Gamecocks at the first of the season was a goal, but not realistic early on in the season. The amount of work Butch Jones and his staff has put into this team has finally turned this team into a competitive unit. This is why I give this upset my highest ranking. (Then again, am I just being a homer?......NAH!)
 
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Auburn definitely has more talent than we do. But they were worse than we were last season. I actually think South Carolina and Tx AnM are pretty even teams, though very different. Auburn won on the road. That's a big deal. They got the number 1 upset. We were 2.

Ole Miss over LSU was surprising but people predicted it, like myself for example. Ole miss is good and were at home. Mettenberger laid a stinker like he did all last year and LSU couldn't recover.

Vandy won but Georgia really beat itself at the end of that game. Costly fumble and dropped punt. Gotta give vandy some credit but Georgia with all those injuries isn't a top 25 team. They are just missing so much talent.

Mizzou over UF was no upset. Even with a backup QB, Florida is banged up and can't score to save their lives. Plus they were at home. Impressive that they scored the way they did though
 
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Ours was the biggest & AU next. Candy doesn't count! I was for GA because I will NOT cheer for those douchebags in Nashville to do anything but what they're best at....losing!

The SEC has 13 teams that are going to RUE the day Butch Jones came to Knoxville!

Strap it on boys, the Vols are on our way back!
 
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I am bias. But OURS is the biggest. Auburn was ranked prior to winning on Saturday. Tennessee's upset proves that we are turning the corner with CBJ.
 
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I say ours is the biggest for three reasons...

1) This is Butch's first year. All of the others (Ole Miss, Vandy, Auburn, Missouri) are by coaches in their second year or more. And like a previous poster said, can we really call Missouri an upset?

2) This is arguably one of the best teams South Carolina has ever fielded on paper. One of the announcers was muttering about their shot at a national championship in the very beginning of the game.

3) Perhaps most importantly, if you look at maps of where all of the SEC recruits come from, the closest (and arguably most important) recruiting ground is the greater Atlanta area. Back in the day, Fulmer cleaned house in Georgia, and then cherry-picked the Carolinas. He was able to do this because he was consistently beating both Georgia and South Carolina. Now, we don't get those same recruits from South Carolina, and USC and Bama are getting the recruits we used to swoop in and steal from Georgia (i.e. the ones that aren't born Bulldogs).

If you also look at historical trends, the two programs most tied to UT's win/loss records are South Carolina, and then Georgia.

From a very big picture point of view, the single biggest upset that needed to happen for us was to beat South Carolina. Butch just took a giant s@#$ on the Spurrier mystique.

That also gets to one of my critiques of the "no such things as moral victory" crowd. Butch can now walk into recruit's house and say, "We beat one of South Carolina's best teams ever. We were an inch away from Georgia when they had their best QB ever. This is our first year righting the ship. Come see the house that Neyland built. Be the next brick."

People yelling "it's all about wins and losses" are very short-sighted in this point in Jone's tenure. Perception is everything with these kid's that Jones is recruiting. Beating South Carolina (and coming one unfortunate fumble short of beating Georgia) reinforces the message that the sleeping giant is waking the f@#$ up.
 
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Only win that is a Signature win is a National Championship. Every thing else is just a win. Saying yesterdays win was a Signature win is like saying CBJ will not get anymore wins. He will.
 
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RiotVol said:
I say ours is the biggest for three reasons...

1) This is Butch's first year. All of the others (Ole Miss, Vandy, Auburn, Missouri) are by coaches in their second year or more. And like a previous poster said, can we really call Missouri an upset?

2) This is arguably one of the best teams South Carolina has ever fielded on paper. One of the announcers was muttering about their shot at a national championship in the very beginning of the game.

3) Perhaps most importantly, if you look at maps of where all of the SEC recruits come from, the closest (and arguably most important) recruiting ground is the greater Atlanta area. Back in the day, Fulmer cleaned house in Georgia, and then cherry-picked the Carolinas. He was able to do this because he was consistently beating both Georgia and South Carolina. Now, we don't get those same recruits from South Carolina, and USC and Bama are getting the recruits we used to swoop in and steal from Georgia (i.e. the ones that aren't born Bulldogs).

If you also look at historical trends, the two programs most tied to UT's win/loss records are South Carolina, and then Georgia.

From a very big picture point of view, the single biggest upset that needed to happen for us was to beat South Carolina. Butch just took a giant s@#$ on the Spurrier mystique.

That also gets to one of my critiques of the "no such things as moral victory" crowd. Butch can now walk into recruit's house and say, "We beat one of South Carolina's best teams ever. We were an inch away from Georgia when they had their best QB ever. This is our first year righting the ship. Come see the house that Neyland built. Be the next brick."

People yelling "it's all about wins and losses" are very short-sighted in this point in Jone's tenure. Perception is everything with these kid's that Jones is recruiting. Beating South Carolina (and coming one unfortunate fumble short of beating Georgia) reinforces the message that the sleeping giant is waking the f@#$ up.
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Interesting take. But this is also Malzahn's first year as Auburn's HC. And can't he say the same things to recruits about rebuilding that program and beating one of the top teams, led by the Heisman trophy winner? And wouldn't he have an even better argument on that front, seeing as he's gotten his team into the top 25 and he's shown that his offensive system can really be effective in the SEC and put up a ton of points, even without alot of NFL caliber talent running it?
 
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oregonvol said:
Interesting take. But this is also Malzahn's first year as Auburn's HC. And can't he say the same things to recruits about rebuilding that program and beating one of the top teams, led by the Heisman trophy winner? And wouldn't he have an even better argument on that front, seeing as he's gotten his team into the top 25 and he's shown that his offensive system can really be effective in the SEC and put up a ton of points, even without alot of NFL caliber talent running it?
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Hmmm...got me. I thought this was Malzahn's second year.

I guess where I would still lean Tennessee is 1) UT is in more head to head competition for recruits with South Carolina than Auburn is with A&M and 2) I'm biased. Go Vols.
 
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