Simple physics

[led0321]

If they are faster they can beat you to the corner, only the posters on Volnation cannot see that.

Watching FSU and Bama is exciting because Jones is recruiting those types of athletes. There is no other way, if you wanna compete in the top 5 you have to recruit in the top 5.

Go CBJ and Go Vols

 

[hillsborovol]

There is no doubt that Auburn was/is faster. One other problem is that our CBs seem to be easily blocked by their WRs while the QB or RB runs right past them. We need more speed and more strength.

 

[1985Vols]

More Speed on the edge and more John Henderson's and Albert Haynesworht's in the trenches will fix our issues. CBJ is getting it down on the recruiting trail but only has what he inherited to work with this year which is bottom tier talent in the SEC. It's going to take several years to turn this Kiffin Dooley train wreck around. brick by Brick!!

 

[pattiycake]

If they are faster they can beat you to the corner, only the posters on Volnation cannot see that.

Watching FSU and Bama is exciting because Jones is recruiting those types of athletes. There is no other way, if you wanna compete in the top 5 you have to recruit in the top 5.

Go CBJ and Go Vols

Some of us get it...others just want to moan and complain and burn Butch at the stake. :wink2:

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

An object moves at constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force as well.

Opposing ball carriers aren't being acted on by that external force, i.e. players on the Vols defense, that can actually tackle.

 

[fade route]

There is no doubt that Auburn was/is faster. One other problem is that our CBs seem to be easily blocked by their WRs while the QB or RB runs right past them. We need more speed and more strength.

We are very bad at shedding blocks, especially on screens and perimeter runs.

 

[TAF]

We are very bad at shedding blocks, especially on screens and perimeter runs.

Too bad that ^^^ is not coachable... :no:

 

[appvol]

Need LBs that can run sideline to sideline and not get blocked.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Do people blaming poor angles not understand that slower defenders will have poor angles against faster ballcarriers? Doesn't matter what angle you take when the other guy is faster. I suppose you could just run backward and to the sideline. Maybe try to make a tackle at midfield by just running to the spot right at the start. Rb takes a handoff at the 20 and beats the edge, lets just have the lb run backwards 30 yards and maybe his slow ass will have a good angle then.

 

[utvolkyle06]

Silly is this football or track? Sure speed helps but technique, positioning, experience, scheme, game planning, coaching, player preparation, play calling are all more important. Who do you think has the faster team speed Oregon or Stanford?

 

[cgbtn]

It seemed to me that our contain men were in almost perfect position all game long. Auburn simply ran around them. I wanted to give Brent Brewer a hug. He really needed one.

 

[State of the Vols]

If they are faster they can beat you to the corner, only the posters on Volnation cannot see that.

Watching FSU and Bama is exciting because Jones is recruiting those types of athletes. There is no other way, if you wanna compete in the top 5 you have to recruit in the top 5.

Go CBJ and Go Vols

How much faster is Stanford than Oregon? Fundamentals and playing in position are more important than speed. Our lack of speed is simply more evident because we are not playing good fundamental defensive football. That is on the coaches more than on the players.

 

[State of the Vols]

It seemed to me that our contain men were in almost perfect position all game long. Auburn simply ran around them. I wanted to give Brent Brewer a hug. He really needed one.

You were watching a different game than was I. Our edge contain man was stepping inside almost every play.

 

[OleVol]

Speed is important but if you can't tackle speed is a non-factor

 

[SaintLouisVol]

Do people blaming poor angles not understand that slower defenders will have poor angles against faster ballcarriers? Doesn't matter what angle you take when the other guy is faster. . . .

If this were true, Bill Bates would have never made a tackle in the SEC much less the NFL.

Every week, you see slower players cover fast receivers and you see slower linebackers and Lineman tackle faster running backs. They do it using techniques first learned in peewee ball.

I said it in another thread, but I will say it again. Speed does not make bad defenses good. It makes good defense is great.

That does not mean that I blame it on the coaches. Obviously, many of these things are being coached and practiced. I can't imagine any coach who has coached for more than one day wouldn't coach these things. The players have to execute in the games what is practiced during the week.

The players do not have the instinct and mental discipline to play good football. They are simply not good football players. Over time, I do believe that they will get better with good coaching. Or, someone else will come along and take the spot.

 

[fade route]

Do people blaming poor angles not understand that slower defenders will have poor angles against faster ballcarriers? Doesn't matter what angle you take when the other guy is faster. I suppose you could just run backward and to the sideline. Maybe try to make a tackle at midfield by just running to the spot right at the start. Rb takes a handoff at the 20 and beats the edge, lets just have the lb run backwards 30 yards and maybe his slow ass will have a good angle then.

I doubt Stanford has blazing speed on defense.

 

[Spartacavolus]

It seemed to me that our contain men were in almost perfect position all game long. Auburn simply ran around them. I wanted to give Brent Brewer a hug. He really needed one.

when you call a D that puts a spy on the opposing qb and the qb runs right by him like he's standing still, are you supposed to put 2 spies on him?

 

[Spartacavolus]

I doubt Stanford has blazing speed on defense.

you must not have watched their mlb beat oregons rb's to the edge or their lockdown corners. Doesn't matter if the mlb is white (having too many white players is why some will assume Stanford is slow, whether they admit it or not) or has a lower 40 time or whatever. That's why shuttle speed is more important for lb's and it a better measurement of possible football speed.
Again, if people can't understand the speed difference after watch them toy with us like little kids when in open space, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Volinnooga]

Do people blaming poor angles not understand that slower defenders will have poor angles against faster ballcarriers? Doesn't matter what angle you take when the other guy is faster. I suppose you could just run backward and to the sideline. Maybe try to make a tackle at midfield by just running to the spot right at the start. Rb takes a handoff at the 20 and beats the edge, lets just have the lb run backwards 30 yards and maybe his slow ass will have a good angle then.

If you are slower (which we obviously are), you take a different angle. Just because they are faster doesn't mean you can't use the angle to make the tackle. It may be after a gain but at least you make the tackle.

 

[TAF]

Doesn't matter if the mlb is white (having too many white players is why some will assume Stanford is slow, whether they admit it or not) or has a lower 40 time or whatever.

 

[tm3]

Once faster players are at UT, it won't matter if they are out of position, take bad angles, bite on fakes, and don't tackle.

More speed plus the best coaching staff in America equals championships!

 

[Spartacavolus]

If you are slower (which we obviously are), you take a different angle. Just because they are faster doesn't mean you can't use the angle to make the tackle. It may be after a gain but at least you make the tackle.

no joke. So I run to the corner, you basically run straight at the sideline or backwards to have a good angle, and I cut behind you with no problem, just as Auburn did all day yesterday, specifically on special teams.

 

[fade route]

you must not have watched their mlb beat oregons rb's to the edge or their lockdown corners. Doesn't matter if the mlb is white (having too many white players is why some will assume Stanford is slow, whether they admit it or not) or has a lower 40 time or whatever. That's why shuttle speed is more important for lb's and it a better measurement of possible football speed.
Again, if people can't understand the speed difference after watch them toy with us like little kids when in open space, I don't know what to tell you.

Speed can be overcome somewhat with good discipline and not over pursuing. Where speed can't be overcome is in one on one match ups in the secondary. Do we lack team speed on D? Absolutely, but we also lack good technique and discipline and the ability to shed blocks.

 

[led0321]

Auburn's qb was faster than our secondary

 

[vol24/7/365]

How much faster is Stanford than Oregon? Fundamentals and playing in position are more important than speed. Our lack of speed is simply more evident because we are not playing good fundamental defensive football. That is on the coaches more than on the players.

Yep and if you don't let them by you then you dont have to be fast.