Six words that describes Tobias

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Great offensive player, horrible defensive player.... JMO this pretty describes him so far. I love his offensive production he is giving us, but he really needs to step it up on D.
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#2
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I concur. The good thing is that I don't believe it's an effort thing. I just don't think he knows how to play proper defense.
 
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He really is a big liability on the floor defensively right now. Love his offensive game, even though I would have loved to see a dish or two down the stretch last night instead of shooting with a guy in his face on those last two shots.
 
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I honestly think this has a lot to do with AAU ball. where it's pretty much all about scoring and not much defense.
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thegeneralneyland said:
He really is a big liability on the floor defensively right now. Love his offensive game, even though I would have loved to see a dish or two down the stretch last night instead of shooting with a guy in his face on those last two shots.
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Name me 1 player who isnt a big liability on def. I think Fields and Bone is the best def. player we have right now.The bottom line this team is pathetic and our only bright spot is Harris.
 
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You can judge a lot of what the coaches think about certain players defensive ability by one play last night....After a time-out, biggest defensive possession of the game, about a minute left in regulation when we needed a stop and Hopson and Tobias are not on the floor....
 
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tnvols72 said:
Name me 1 player who isnt a big liability on def. I think Fields and Bone is the best def. player we have right now.The bottom line this team is pathetic and our only bright spot is Harris.
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The problem I have with Harris is that once you take into account the points that are scored because of his poor defense, his own offensive contribution is nearly netted out. The same goes with Hopson, and his complete lack of understanding of any sort of set offensive play.
 
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You forgot the fact that he can rebound too. He's putting up double doubles. Whatever his short comings are, I'll gladly bare them in exchange for his teammates having better decision making abilities.
 
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JamesBenUT said:
You forgot the fact that he can rebound too. He's putting up double doubles. Whatever his short comings are, I'll gladly bare them in exchange for his teammates having better decision making abilities.
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Really? Even when his shortcomings lead to players on the other team having good statistics.

The kid is a good player, and will have the opportunity to be great, but he has to make that step.

And step number one should be learning how to play defensive basketball.
 
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horrible?

FLA was throwing up junk half hooks and no look shots that went in. Last two games he has been exposed a bit, but damn...horrible??

Compared to who?? Brian Williams?? :)
 
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We'd be undefeated if his teammates didn't turn the ballover and throw up 3s four feet beyond the arc with a hand in their face and 20 seconds left on the shot clock. Sure I want a "do-everything Lebron James" on my team, but let's face it, Tobias Harris is not the problem. His teammates are.
 
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JamesBenUT said:
We'd be undefeated if his teammates didn't turn the ballover and throw up 3s four feet beyond the arc with a hand in their face and 20 seconds left on the shot clock. Sure I want a "do-everything Lebron James" on my team, but let's face it, Tobias Harris is not the problem. His teammates are.
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You're right, but he's apart of it.
 
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VOLnVEGAS said:
Yeah because he wears the same color jersey his teammates do. What is the point?
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The point is that just because Tobias Harris is a decent offensive player, doesn't mean everything he's doing is positive towards the team. He should be taken to task with the rest of them.
 
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KevinA87 said:
You can judge a lot of what the coaches think about certain players defensive ability by one play last night....After a time-out, biggest defensive possession of the game, about a minute left in regulation when we needed a stop and Hopson and Tobias are not on the floor....
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Excellent point, and neither of them should have been on the floor. TJ made some very good moves last night even though we lost the game. Moves that BP would not have made. I might have had Fields in on the play you're speaking of instead of Williams (only because he's more athletic) but otherwise TJ had the right players on the floor when we absolutely had to have a stop.
 
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volconomist said:
The point is that just because Tobias Harris is a decent offensive player, doesn't mean everything he's doing is positive towards the team. He should be taken to task with the rest of them.
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If he is a decent offensive player, would love to see how you describe everyone else on the team.
 
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volconomist said:
Really? Even when his shortcomings lead to players on the other team having good statistics.

The kid is a good player, and will have the opportunity to be great, but he has to make that step.

And step number one should be learning how to play defensive basketball.
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well when is BW going to learn how to play def. he has been here for 4 years and is 6`10 and cant jump 5 inches off the floor.I like how you point out Harris problems but leave out the rest of the players.
Like the other poster said Harris is putting up double doubles ,who else is doing that ?he is a freshmen and more advanced than any other player on the team.You say he needs to make that next step ? well were still waiting on Hopson to make that next step instead of the next turnover.
 
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tnvols72 said:
Name me 1 player who isnt a big liability on def. I think Fields and Bone is the best def. player we have right now.The bottom line this team is pathetic and our only bright spot is Harris.
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Bone plays good D, Pearl defends well at the 4. Goins usually defends well, although he had a howler yesterday.
 
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tnvols72 said:
well when is BW going to learn how to play def. he has been here for 4 years and is 6`10 and cant jump 5 inches off the floor.I like how you point out Harris problems but leave out the rest of the players.
Like the other poster said Harris is putting up double doubles ,who else is doing that ?he is a freshmen and more advanced than any other player on the team.You say he needs to make that next step ? well were still waiting on Hopson to make that next step instead of the next turnover.
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Sorry for discussing Tobias Harris in a thread titled, "Six words that describe Tobias".
 
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volconomist said:
Sorry for discussing Tobias Harris in a thread titled, "Six words that describe Tobias".
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oh i didnt know we were suppose to describe Harris in 6 words.I thought you were the only one doing that.
well here is my 6 words
Tobias the best player Tn has.
 
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VOLnVEGAS said:
Six words?

Freshman de facto leader of this team..

okay 7 words.
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This team has no leaders. Leaders don't disappear in overtime, and everybody disappeared for the Vols.

On the Harris point. My six word description:

Will be great, when he defends.
 
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