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tidwell

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Who do you think Miami will go after and ultimately get to be their head coach in 2007?
 
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I have heard rumors of Butch Davis returning.

(may have been here I don't remember)
 
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tidwell said:
Who do you think Miami will go after and ultimately get to be their head coach in 2007?
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Schiano, a second Davis tenure, Barry Alvarez, and Tommy Tuberville are getting all the play in South Florida. I was in New York yesterday and Dick Weiss mentioned Richt as a possible candidate in his daily News column. I think Schiano makes the most sense. Alvarez is a little too old and Davis probably wants another shot at the NFL.
 
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I just don't see it happening. Maybe he'd leave for FSU, but unless the money was just crazy, I don't see him going to Miami.
 
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I could see Richt going to FSU or Miami.That 8 year contract gives him alot of leverage IMO.
 
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I for one hope Richt stays in the Sec, and not because he beats UT. He really brings a level of class that is much needed in the Sec.
 
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GAVol said:
I just don't see it happening. Maybe he'd leave for FSU, but unless the money was just crazy, I don't see him going to Miami.
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Richt isn't going to either of those places. UGA is a better situation. As long as he keeps Rodney Garner on his staff, he would be an imbecile to leave the Peach State.
 
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I have a funny feeling Butch will be waiting a long time for another shot at a head coaching job in the NFL.
 
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I would speculate that Miami's best choices would be Butch or Tubberville. Its hard to see Tubberville walk away from the Auburn talent (he basically owns Alabama recruiting) to go and compete with FSU and UF in Florida's talent pool.
 
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therealUT said:
I would speculate that Miami's best choices would be Butch or Tubberville. Its hard to see Tubberville walk away from the Auburn talent (he basically owns Alabama recruiting) to go and compete with FSU and UF in Florida's talent pool.
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You know, Real, what you say makes complete sense.
Except it's Miami, and there is now and will always be real clout in that job.
Tuberville ought to listen hard to such an offer. Florida's talent pool supports three top tier programs just fine, and that is a job someone can really fly with...
 
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Well and Tubberville came to Ole Miss from Miami and Richt did qb there....the names themselves make sense on the surface, but given where both of those guys have thier current programs, and i know it's miami, i think they'd be better off staying...

But, again, it is Miami, and you would think winning at Miami in the ACC should be far easier than consistently doing what both of them have been able to do in the SEC....
 
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Don't get me wrong, I would not be surprised if either Richt or Tubberville took the job. There are plenty of reasons for each to take the job, not to mention Auburn trying to replace Tubberville a few years back.

However, Tubberville has capitalized on the opportunity to build the Auburn program while Alabama struggled. He has endured numerous setbacks on the path to prominance, including the latest dodging of an academic scandal. His program continues to excel, and Auburn/LSU is about the same game that UF/UT was in the 90s (the winner will most likely win the SEC and contend for a national championship.)

Richt is a God in Georgia. He has built the current program and it has been basically untouchable in the SEC East. A national championship continues to allude him, though. I think that would have been the allure of the Miami job five years ago. However, now that Miami is in the ACC, they will face more stringent competition and much more often. In my opinion, it is still tougher to go undefeated in the SEC than the ACC, however, not by much anymore.

Miami used to be a program that a good coach could go to, recruit stud athletes, and run the table (as an independent and as the only formidable team in the Big East.) I do not believe that is still the case. A good coach is now going to have to catch some breaks every single season, breaks that mean the difference between 13-0 and 9-4 (like the SEC, Big 10, and Big XII.) That being the case, I do not see a coach with a prominent program in the SEC abandoning ship for the U.
 
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therealUT said:
Miami used to be a program that a good coach could go to, recruit stud athletes, and run the table (as an independent and as the only formidable team in the Big East.) I do not believe that is still the case. A good coach is now going to have to catch some breaks every single season, breaks that mean the difference between 13-0 and 9-4 (like the SEC, Big 10, and Big XII.) That being the case, I do not see a coach with a prominent program in the SEC abandoning ship for the U.
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Can a reloaded Miami run the table in the ACC? Well, of course you're right, it is a much tougher task. And truthfully, I have my own questions about why a successful HC in the SEC would want to play anywhere else. But the fact remains that the Miami job has the kind of national cache' that sucks coaches in. The rewards in national recognition for succeeding in the Miami program are exponentially higher than all but a few other places in the country. The job is clearly tougher now, but success puts a coach in air that is hard to reach...
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
Can a reloaded Miami run the table in the ACC? Well, of course you're right, it is a much tougher task. And truthfully, I have my own questions about why a successful HC in the SEC would want to play anywhere else. But the fact remains that the Miami job has the kind of national cache' that sucks coaches in. The rewards in national recognition for succeeding in the Miami program are exponentially higher than all but a few other places in the country. The job is clearly tougher now, but success puts a coach in air that is hard to reach...
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It is a double edged sword though. Because Miami is a national program, much like ND and Nebraska, if a coach goes there and does reasonably well but not great (in today's football a couple 9-4, 10-3 seasons) then they are ushered out after three or four years, and end up starting over at some program like Ohio University. The rewards of the Miami job are certainly enticing, however, the risks are equally as daring.
 
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therealUT said:
It is a double edged sword though. Because Miami is a national program, much like ND and Nebraska, if a coach goes there and does reasonably well but not great (in today's football a couple 9-4, 10-3 seasons) then they are ushered out after three or four years, and end up starting over at some program like Ohio University. The rewards of the Miami job are certainly enticing, however, the risks are equally as daring.
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Agree completely. One thing. I don't know the guy, but it's my impression that Tuberville is a moth with just enough ego to be drawn to that kind of flame.
 
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Interesting point about the Miami's, ND's of the world...and it brings to mnd this....i think it's funny that Charlie Weiss put up a banner in the training rooms and locker rooms that says "9-3 isn't good enough".

think he might live to regret that one of these days, when the AD comes in and says: "you know what Charlie, you're right, it ain't good enough...."
 
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jakez4ut said:
Interesting point about the Miami's, ND's of the world...and it brings to mnd this....i think it's funny that Charlie Weiss put up a banner in the training rooms and locker rooms that says "9-3 isn't good enough".

think he might live to regret that one of these days, when the AD comes in and says: "you know what Charlie, you're right, it ain't good enough...."
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Regardless of whether or not Weiss put that banner up, if ND went 9-3 for five straight years (Weiss gets 2 more than most coaches since he signed a new 10 year contract) he would be gone...Just ask Lou Holtz.

For a more perfect example, just look at what Nebraska did to Frank Solich...
 
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therealUT said:
Regardless of whether or not Weiss put that banner up, if ND went 9-3 for five straight years (Weiss gets 2 more than most coaches since he signed a new 10 year contract) he would be gone...Just ask Lou Holtz.

For a more perfect example, just look at what Nebraska did to Frank Solich...
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yeah, i get that...i just thought it was funny that he put those banners up...and one of these days, he may in fact find out that it really isn't good enough....it was meant to be funny.
 
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I have heard that there is an exception in Richt's contract that would allow him to leave for the Miami job due to his ties there. i'm trying to find confirmation if this is in fact true, but I've heard many people talk about it. Anybody hear about this?

Coaches have big enough egos to entice them to the challenge of bringing a big program back to the promised land.
 
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i think i heard the other day, i forget where, that no such item exists in his contract. If i find the article, i'll post it...
 
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