So It Begins…The P4 schools disassociating from the NCAA

[zjcvols]

 

[hog88]

Good, the P4 needs to setting the rules for the P4 and not letting Bumfuzzle U have a say in how major programs are ran.

 

[hUTch2002]

Finally! Now that I think of it, who really need the Big 10?

 

[LouderVol]

Finally! Now that I think of it, who really need the Big 10?

I dont think they include both the Big 12 and the ACC. why do it? you have the market cornered with the P2 anyway.

 

[zjcvols]

I dont think they include both the Big 12 and the ACC. why do it? you have the market cornered with the P2 anyway.

I would not be shocked if we see the SEC add four more schools and the BIG add 2 more schools, create 40 teams, and basically go to an NFL model.

 

[zjcvols]

SEC- Miami, Florida State, North Carolina, Clemson

BIG- 2 from the lot of Louisville, Virginia, Virginia Tech and Pittsburgh

- 5 divisions of 4x teams (play each team in your division)

- play two divisions each year and rotate

- One “non conference” game

If you win your division, automatic playoff berth. 16 team playoff, 8 in each conference with tiebreakers (no more committees)!

Play the MLK Bowl (Their version of the Super Bowl)

 

[Wireless1]

What'll be interesting is whether this is only for Football, for Football and Basketball (M&W) or all sports at those universities.
I can see it for the revenue positive sports while leaving the non-revenue under the NCAA with smaller, regional conferences like things were 50 years ago.
This could address a lot of the NIL and Title IX issues.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

Did you mean P2 instead of P4?

 

[Godfatha]

What'll be interesting is whether this is only for Football, for Football and Basketball (M&W) or all sports at those universities.
I can see it for the revenue positive sports while leaving the non-revenue under the NCAA with smaller, regional conferences like things were 50 years ago.
This could address a lot of the NIL and Title IX issues.

Without the revenue from college basketball and what revenue they get from football, I doubt the NCAA has the money to administer the non-revenue generating sports.

 

[hUTch2002]

What'll be interesting is whether this is only for Football, for Football and Basketball (M&W) or all sports at those universities.
I can see it for the revenue positive sports while leaving the non-revenue under the NCAA with smaller, regional conferences like things were 50 years ago.
This could address a lot of the NIL and Title IX issues.

I think you’re spot on as a lot of the issues come from trying to treat all sports the same. There’s no model that works.

 

[hog88]

Without the revenue from college basketball and what revenue they get from football, I doubt the NCAA has the money to administer the non-revenue generating sports.

The NCAA mens BB tournament is 80-90% of their revenue. I assume the rest comes from the baseball and womens BB tournament.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Finally! Now that I think of it, who really need the Big 10?

Strength in numbers and the SEC and Big Ten have the biggest numbers.

 

[95 Vol Alum]

SEC- Miami, Florida State, North Carolina, Clemson

BIG- 2 from the lot of Louisville, Virginia, Virginia Tech and Pittsburgh

- 5 divisions of 4x teams (play each team in your division)

- play two divisions each year and rotate

- One “non conference” game

If you win your division, automatic playoff berth. 16 team playoff, 8 in each conference with tiebreakers (no more committees)!

Play the MLK Bowl (Their version of the Super Bowl)

Down vote

 

[Ernie McCracken]

Down vote

I can see that happening, just a matter of time! I'm not crazy about it either but expansion is frankly inevitable.

Question? why the down vote? Asking for a friend, asking for science and my research haha

GBO

 

[hUTch2002]

Strength in numbers and the SEC and Big Ten have the biggest numbers.

They play that inferior brand of football up there or out there, wherever they all are now.

 

[DaddyChad]

Did you mean P2 instead of P4?

He spoke right. NCAA won’t exist after all the cases are decided. Conferences won’t keep throwing money to a dying corrupt organization

 

[Dadof2Vols]

He spoke right. NCAA won’t exist after all the cases are decided. Conferences won’t keep throwing money to a dying corrupt organization

You missed my point it will not be power 4, it will be power 2 SEC/Big10(20) with the power 2 picking enough schools to be either consisting of 20/24/32 schools and that’s it.

The NCAA might exist for education and other sports but not football/basketball and those will be controlled by P2.

 

[TrumpedUpVol]

I would not be shocked if we see the SEC add four more schools and the BIG add 2 more schools, create 40 teams, and basically go to an NFL model.

I don't know if 40 is the exact number, but there's no way Vanderbilt/Northwestern/Mississippi State/others actually make the cut going forward.

 

[wmcovol]

FSU, Clemson, UNC is about all the ACC has to offer anyone really want or needs. Not sure the Big 12 has 1 school. Add in ND and that all the Big 10 & SEC give a damn about. This is gonna be brutal going forward.

 

[stolitonic]

I don't know if 40 is the exact number, but there's no way Vanderbilt/Northwestern/Mississippi State/others actually make the cut going forward.

I don't see anybody making a serious move to kick them out. Every conference needs one team that is basically a gimme. In the SEC sense, historically Vandy has been used to keep academic averages up. Is that even really necessary anymore though? Most of the SEC schools have pretty steadily moved up in the rankings in the last 25 years.

I also don't see anybody passing up $60 million or more per year just for throwing a poor team out there.

We already saw how desperate Cal, SMU, etc were to even get in a P4 conference. Things go down to 2 and the palace intrigue alone is going to be worth watching.

 

[GroverCleveland]

FSU, Clemson, UNC is about all the ACC has to offer anyone really want or needs. Not sure the Big 12 has 1 school. Add in ND and that all the Big 10 & SEC give a damn about. This is gonna be brutal going forward.

The B1G will take Georgia Tech in a heartbeat.

 

[TrumpedUpVol]

I don't see anybody making a serious move to kick them out. Every conference needs one team that is basically a gimme. In the SEC sense, historically Vandy has been used to keep academic averages up. Is that even really necessary anymore though? Most of the SEC schools have pretty steadily moved up in the rankings in the last 25 years.

I also don't see anybody passing up $60 million or more per year just for throwing a poor team out there.

We already saw how desperate Cal, SMU, etc were to even get in a P4 conference. Things go down to 2 and the palace intrigue alone is going to be worth watching.

I'm not sure why the sport's power brokers across two+ conferences would consolidate in an effort to earn more money and allow for the inclusion of programs that are effectively just freeloading. Vanderbilt makes sense as an SEC program, not only for history but for academic/FOIA purposes, though they bring nothing to the table when negotiating a 24/28/32/36-team super tier. It's pretty much a given that Florida State, Clemson, Notre Dame and UNC along with a few other schools are going to wind up involved, and adding them while keeping legacy programs does nothing but dilute revenue share.

Vandy, Rutgers, Northwestern, Purdue, State (Mississippi isn't going to get two representatives) and a fair number of the fringe teams would all love to keep raking in the big bucks, but there's just no way they're going to be invited to do so.

 

[volbound1700]

The timing of this announcement very much lined up with Tennessee's situation with the NCAA and in a way made the case irrelevant because if things go to plan, I don't think the NCAA is going to be able to enforce anything against Tennessee no matter what happens. SEC and B1G are starting the process to break away.