So much for global warming.

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Did you know Knoxville used to host a national sledding competition every February?
 
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IPorange said:
Did you know Knoxville used to host a national sledding competition every February?
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When I was a teenager we played a lot of hockey, we didn't have real pucks or skates but we didn't let that bother us, we had plenty of forzen over creeks and ponds.

I've enjoyed the last thirty years of realatively mild winters and wouldn't mind many more.

As it now stands we could have a curling competition on the pond in front of my house this weekend.

For anyone who experienced the winter of '51, global warming would be the last of our worries, a half inch of sleet and freezing rain covered by 14 inches of snow and then four inches of solid blue ice that covered any and everything made life tough and it seemed like a thousand years passed by before things began to thaw up.



Short tutorial on the history of Earth climate.

In other words, we may be witnessing the end of the whole cycle of ice ages!
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That would be a very forutnate thing for the future of mankind.

Anyway, the Younger Dryas lasted about 1400 years. Temperatures dropped dramatically in Europe: about 7°C in only 20 years! In Greenland, it was 15° C colder during the Younger Dryas than today.
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I assume you guys are referring to the current cold snap.

Which only confirms your utter lack of understanding of the issue.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I assume you guys are referring to the current cold snap.

Which only confirms your utter lack of understanding of the issue.
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Too funny. It's a money making scheme, not science. That's REALLY easy to understand. There's been climate change on this planet for thousands of years, yet somehow people are concentrated on just 100 years of temperatures and 1 degree. There is no science in global warming, and man can't do jack crap about it. I guess there are 3 things that are definite in this world now....

Death
Taxes
and Climate Change
 
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VolFan32 said:
Duh, that's why the Libs call it "Climate change" now :crazy:
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Silly me, how could I be soooo behind the times?? :hmm:

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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Too funny. It's a money making scheme, not science. That's REALLY easy to understand. There's been climate change on this planet for thousands of years, yet somehow people are concentrated on just 100 years of temperatures and 1 degree. There is no science in global warming, and man can't do jack crap about it. I guess there are 3 things that are definite in this world now....

Death
Taxes
and Climate Change
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False.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Too funny. It's a money making scheme, not science. That's REALLY easy to understand. There's been climate change on this planet for thousands of years, yet somehow people are concentrated on just 100 years of temperatures and 1 degree. There is no science in global warming, and man can't do jack crap about it. I guess there are 3 things that are definite in this world now....

Death
Taxes
and Climate Change
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Please, share with me your vast understanding of Earth's climate history and function g8terh8ter_eric.
 
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IPorange said:
Please, share with me your vast understanding of Earth's climate history and function g8terh8ter_eric.
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You go first.

How do you understand Earth's climate history??

Explain how 'function' is relevant.

What do you mean by function??
 
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lawgator1 said:
I assume you guys are referring to the current cold snap.

Which only confirms your utter lack of understanding of the issue.
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Setting aside all the contradictory science that both sides of this argument present (I remain a skeptic) of one thing I am absolutely certain. If we were in the middle of a "warm snap" it'd be all over the MSN as proof of AGW.

I find this "It's proof as long as it supports our theory" approach extremely unpalatable.
 
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IPorange said:
Please, share with me your vast understanding of Earth's climate history and function g8terh8ter_eric.
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It's real easy, watch this.....

Climate Change has occurred since the Earth has been. Temperatures go up, and go down. Sometimes temperature are hotter in certain times, and colder in certain times. It's been going on like that since the beginning.

The whole global warming BS revolves around money. It's a political science, not one that will benefit humanity. Do I believe we need alternative fuels?? Absolutely, but not at the cost of making the average American household pay for it. If it's needed, the private sector will provide it.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
It's real easy, watch this.....

Climate Change has occurred since the Earth has been. Temperatures go up, and go down. Sometimes temperature are hotter in certain times, and colder in certain times. It's been going on like that since the beginning.

The whole global warming BS revolves around money. It's a political science, not one that will benefit humanity. Do I believe we need alternative fuels?? Absolutely, but not at the cost of making the average American household pay for it. If it's needed, the private sector will provide it.
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What drives temperatures going up and down?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
It's real easy, watch this.....

Climate Change has occurred since the Earth has been. Temperatures go up, and go down. Sometimes temperature are hotter in certain times, and colder in certain times. It's been going on like that since the beginning.

The whole global warming BS revolves around money. It's a political science, not one that will benefit humanity. Do I believe we need alternative fuels?? Absolutely, but not at the cost of making the average American household pay for it. If it's needed, the private sector will provide it.
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I work with an aeronautical engineer and he's had to do research on change in climates and their effect on trajectories based on the difference in temperature and pressure (this is where my eyes glaze over), but this is pretty much his synopsis on "global climate change". He's no atmospheric engineer or geologist, though. I could only make it 2 minutes talking to a geologist about this.

There is a remarkable difference in a fractional degree of the axial tilt of the Earth's orbit and the effect the Sun's rays have depending on how it hits the Earth's atmosphere.
 
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Sorry TT, I was more scoffing at someone's buddy who is studying changes in aerodynamics in different climates as thus being an informed expert on climate change and climate history.
 
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IPorange said:
Sorry TT, I was more scoffing at someone's buddy who is studying changes in aerodynamics in different climates as thus being an informed expert on climate change and climate history.
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I know, I just couldn't let that one go un-commented on :)
 
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You two may be 100% correct, but it is colder than a witches titty and you can't have it both ways. It can't be global warming when it is cold and hot.
 
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IPorange said:
Sorry TT, I was more scoffing at someone's buddy who is studying changes in aerodynamics in different climates as thus being an informed expert on climate change and climate history.
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Wow, you really exposed yourself as a "jump before you look" type. I had, built in, a piece saying he isn't an atmospheric engineer (which Boeing does employ). He's talked, for years on end, with his colleagues which are experts in that field.
 
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You guys misunderstand me. I am not saying that there is no legitimate debate to be had about global warming. There is plenty of room to debate the extent to which it is going on, the extent to which, if it is, its man made or caused by industry, and the extent to which the planet self-corrects for it.

My point is simply that anyone who walks outside in the morning to go to work or school, shivers, and runs off and proclaims "It is cold today, therefore there is no global warming" should be summarily executed for stupidity.

Drudge is a great example. Constantly runs stories about record cold here and there. As though a year or two's worth of anecdotal stories is a valid basis for reaching any conclusion.
 
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