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i dont follow basketball so much, until the season starts. Coach Pearl's name is all over the place now. lies, cheats, all that. of course a program doesnt want that. what i am trying to get a handle on is this. it seems that all the garbage around Calpari has absolutely no effect on UKs recruiting. the situations are obviously worlds apart, as far as specifics, but to the casual observer(me), it seems that that both these guys are now rule breaking villains which doesnt seem to hurt UK recruiting at all. dare i say the media pub helps? could this end up being the same for Pearl, assuiming he doesnt get fired:unsure: and UT doesnt get leveled with disciplanary actions:ermm:? keep in mind, this is just a question from a random hoops observer.
 
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Recruits want to win, get exposure in the NCAA tournament and get to the NBA. Doesn't matter if the coach cheats, unless you threaten to have the recruit deported...they might not like that.
 
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i dont follow basketball so much, until the season starts. Coach Pearl's name is all over the place now. lies, cheats, all that. of course a program doesnt want that. what i am trying to get a handle on is this. it seems that all the garbage around Calpari has absolutely no effect on UKs recruiting. the situations are obviously worlds apart, as far as specifics, but to the casual observer(me), it seems that that both these guys are now rule breaking villains which doesnt seem to hurt UK recruiting at all. dare i say the media pub helps? could this end up being the same for Pearl, assuiming he doesnt get fired:unsure: and UT doesnt get leveled with disciplanary actions:ermm:? keep in mind, this is just a question from a random hoops observer.

Actually, the situations aren't really all that different. And I don't think either qualify as "rule breaking villains." A lot of much-ado-about-nothing. Looking the other way on an SAT score, taking a few pictures with a recruit at your home . . . sure, these things are rule violations and make for nice media, but it's not like Pearl or Calipari have really crossed over the line of flat out paying players (or threatening deportation!) for recruiting purposes. Regardless of whether Pearl has kids over to his home, he's built enough of a reputation as a great coach that UT will continue to field excellent teams. Same for Calipari -- why would him looking the other way on D. Rose's SAT score have ANY bearing on his ability to recruit kids to play in the trendiest style of BB around (Dribble Drive)?

The reason you are seeing a higher level of recruiting in Lexington vs. Knoxville is pretty simple....Calipari has more to offer kids who want to go to the NBA than Pearl. I'M NOT SAYING CAL IS A BETTER COACH. I don't think there's any better game day coach than Pearl. But, Calipari has LOTS of ties to the NBA -- whether it be because of his stint with the Nets or because he shared the same facility with Jerry West and the Griz for 8 years. Calipari's style of play is the college football version of the spread offense -- it's sexy and showcases big talent -- did you root for the Lakers or Celtics? Now that Cal is at the Notre Dame of college basketball, he also gets to leverage that history, which is about the only thing he didn't have at Memphis (let's face it, there's no reason a kid would rather go to Lexington than Memphis -- they are both miserable). UT men's basically has no basketball history other than what Pearl has created, and the Ern and Bern show.

Oh, right, and the big difference about why the situations are different -- Bruce Pearl holds a teary-eyed national press conference to confess his sins. Calipari admits nothing, takes a new job, and continues on with business as usual.
 
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If the NCAA lets Enes Kantner play after getting paid by Turkey last year, then the NCAA can not do anything to another school. I mean come on man.
 
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Actually, the situations aren't really all that different. And I don't think either qualify as "rule breaking villains." A lot of much-ado-about-nothing. Looking the other way on an SAT score, taking a few pictures with a recruit at your home . . . sure, these things are rule violations and make for nice media, but it's not like Pearl or Calipari have really crossed over the line of flat out paying players (or threatening deportation!) for recruiting purposes. Regardless of whether Pearl has kids over to his home, he's built enough of a reputation as a great coach that UT will continue to field excellent teams. Same for Calipari -- why would him looking the other way on D. Rose's SAT score have ANY bearing on his ability to recruit kids to play in the trendiest style of BB around (Dribble Drive)?

The reason you are seeing a higher level of recruiting in Lexington vs. Knoxville is pretty simple....Calipari has more to offer kids who want to go to the NBA than Pearl. I'M NOT SAYING CAL IS A BETTER COACH. I don't think there's any better game day coach than Pearl. But, Calipari has LOTS of ties to the NBA -- whether it be because of his stint with the Nets or because he shared the same facility with Jerry West and the Griz for 8 years. Calipari's style of play is the college football version of the spread offense -- it's sexy and showcases big talent -- did you root for the Lakers or Celtics? Now that Cal is at the Notre Dame of college basketball, he also gets to leverage that history, which is about the only thing he didn't have at Memphis (let's face it, there's no reason a kid would rather go to Lexington than Memphis -- they are both miserable). UT men's basically has no basketball history other than what Pearl has created, and the Ern and Bern show.

Oh, right, and the big difference about why the situations are different -- Bruce Pearl holds a teary-eyed national press conference to confess his sins. Calipari admits nothing, takes a new job, and continues on with business as usual.
Pearl is alot better coach. Cal has had alot more talent every time they face one another. I seen a thing the other night about Cal and the NBA ties. I think it's the guy he has as a friend believe they call him world wide Wes. He has alot of NBA ties.
 
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Imagine hypothetically that Pearl is fired last season and Calipari comes to UT with last years recruiting class. UT would be on the other side of the coin. It is what it is.

Being Kentucky does matter, but its mostly about Cal.

As for the Cal vs Pearl argument, thats been run in the damn ground around here and I don't feel like wasting another Sunday beating that dead horse.
 
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i dont follow basketball so much, until the season starts. Coach Pearl's name is all over the place now. lies, cheats, all that. of course a program doesnt want that. what i am trying to get a handle on is this. it seems that all the garbage around Calpari has absolutely no effect on UKs recruiting. the situations are obviously worlds apart, as far as specifics, but to the casual observer(me), it seems that that both these guys are now rule breaking villains which doesnt seem to hurt UK recruiting at all. dare i say the media pub helps? could this end up being the same for Pearl, assuiming he doesnt get fired:unsure: and UT doesnt get leveled with disciplanary actions:ermm:? keep in mind, this is just a question from a random hoops observer.

What is all the garbage going on around Calipari right now?
 
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Here's another "stupid question," if the NCAA does penalize us, would the penalties be for this season or next season?
 
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Imagine hypothetically that Pearl is fired last season and Calipari comes to UT with last years recruiting class. UT would be on the other side of the coin. It is what it is.

Being Kentucky does matter, but its mostly about Cal.

As for the Cal vs Pearl argument, thats been run in the damn ground around here and I don't feel like wasting another Sunday beating that dead horse.
At least we were two points away from going to the final four instead of getting the pee beaten out of us by WVU. Calapari was at a loss for what to do.:yes:
 
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At least we were two points away from going to the final four instead of getting the pee beaten out of us by WVU. Calapari was at a loss for what to do.:yes:

Congrats on making a post that has no significance to the topic, and shows off your ability to look like a tool. You're awesome.
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At least we were two points away from going to the final four instead of getting the pee beaten out of us by WVU. Calapari was at a loss for what to do.:yes:

There wasn't a team in the country that could have beat WVU on that given night. Not with them making 10 3 point shots in the first half alone. They were on fire.
 

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