Sooooo, EXACTLY how will the GOP propose to balance the budget?

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Listening to the newly elected folks last night, none could name a single program they would cut, much less come up with the hundreds of billions needed to even make a dent.

They want to maintain the tax cut or even cut them further. Which adds to the deficit.

They want to increase defense spending. Which adds to the deficit.

They don't seem willing to tackle entitlements, like SS or Medicare.

So after they save $10 billion by closing open positions in the VA, what will they do to account for the other $990 billion they need?

The tough thing about winning on the platfrom they ran on is that the platform is unsustainable. Haven't heard a single credible or doable plan to really even deal with the deficit, much less get to a balanced budget.
 
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Let me get this straight. You feel obamas plan is more likely to result in a balanced budget?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Listening to the newly elected folks last night, none could name a single program they would cut, much less come up with the hundreds of billions needed to even make a dent.
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So you wanted them to lay out legislation on the eve of their election?

I have some ideas if they want to give me a call starting with an immediate freeze of all non-hazardous federal pay which can only be lifted after all Departments are "right sized" like so many corporations have had to do.

Eliminate the Dept of Education which... does not educate a single child and replace it with block grants to states minus the previous admin costs.

For that matter, create a voucher system worth $6000 per child to the parent and save about $4000 per kid while yielding better education.

Eliminate the faith based initiatives since they are unconstitutional anyway.

Eliminate the CPB, NEA, Dept of Energy with necessary functions rolling into Interior, sell certain parks and historical sites to states or non-profits.

Then there are the positive things they can do. Create grants to support the building of nuclear plants across the country. Open up US oil fields... Make the US an energy exporter rather than importer.

Adopt a reciprical trade policy rather than a free trade policy. Countries that use slave labor should not have free access to our markets.

They want to maintain the tax cut or even cut them further. Which adds to the deficit.
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No it doesn't. If Obama allows the "tax cuts on the wealthy" to expire revenues will stay the same at best but more than likely fall as small businesses go out of business, raise prices to cover, stop expanding, or shrink (layoff employees).

They want to increase defense spending. Which adds to the deficit.
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Who specifically said that?

'They don't seem willing to tackle entitlements, like SS or Medicare.
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Really? Some have openly talked about increasing the retirement age.

The tough thing about winning on the platfrom they ran on is that the platform is unsustainable. Haven't heard a single credible or doable plan to really even deal with the deficit, much less get to a balanced budget.
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No it isn't. It may require more courage than they actually have but the platform itself is VERY sustainable.
 
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I'm all for an across the board cut, period. I'd probably lay off intel services but hammer everything else, ruthlessly.
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repeal the health care legislation

freeze spending, for everything including the military

put Iraq and Afghanistan spending where it belongs, which is off-budget

keep personal income taxes at current rates

cut capital gains taxes, eliminate the death tax, reduce corporate taxes

end taxpayer support for public broadcasting

abolish federal employee unions

eliminate the departments of energy, education, commerce, and agriculture

privatize amtrak and possibly the US Postal Service

end foreign aid to governments that could be considered hostile to the US

begin a partial privatization of Social Security, increase retirement age for full benefits to age 70, means test potential recipients. Pass a Constitutional amendment that will completely eliminate the program within 20 years.

reduce Congressional staffs, reduce congressional trips, eliminate Congressional retirement benefits that kick in for life after serving only 6 years
 
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Or... just pass a law that says as long as the US has a national debt no budget including debt payment can exceed last year's tax revenues less 5% to pay down the debt... then do what families have to do and prioritize.
 
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Weezy said:
**** the DOE, we don't need Oak Ridge....
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the Dept. of Energy was created during the Carter administration, Oak Ridge has been around since WWII, so the two are mutually exclusive.
 
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But does it cut the budget at all if you just pass on responsibilities? If anything, I imagine it would be nothing more than a dent if you just remove some of the management.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Listening to the newly elected folks last night, none could name a single program they would cut, much less come up with the hundreds of billions needed to even make a dent.

They want to maintain the tax cut or even cut them further. Which adds to the deficit.

They want to increase defense spending. Which adds to the deficit.
They don't seem willing to tackle entitlements, like SS or Medicare.

So after they save $10 billion by closing open positions in the VA, what will they do to account for the other $990 billion they need?

The tough thing about winning on the platfrom they ran on is that the platform is unsustainable. Haven't heard a single credible or doable plan to really even deal with the deficit, much less get to a balanced budget.
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This is normally a good thing.
 
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the Navy's Nuclear Energy program seems to work just fine without the bureaucratic filter of Washington DC interfering in day to day operations. Perhaps the nation's nuclear energy infrastructure could use some sort of central hub, but when it comes to coal, natural gas, etc. let the states handle that and let the FedGov deal with the interstate commerce aspect of things.
 
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With all the money we'll soon be making from our prior investments in the banking companies, automobile companies, insurance companies, etc. etc. why should we have to worry about cutting spending?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Listening to the newly elected folks last night, none could name a single program they would cut, much less come up with the hundreds of billions needed to even make a dent.

They want to maintain the tax cut or even cut them further. Which adds to the deficit.

They want to increase defense spending. Which adds to the deficit.

They don't seem willing to tackle entitlements, like SS or Medicare.

So after they save $10 billion by closing open positions in the VA, what will they do to account for the other $990 billion they need?

The tough thing about winning on the platfrom they ran on is that the platform is unsustainable. Haven't heard a single credible or doable plan to really even deal with the deficit, much less get to a balanced budget.
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first thing they will do is kill Obama-care
 
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Vols520 said:
Boehner said he was going after it today.
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Once again, how are they actually planning to pull this off? Believe me, I'm all for it, but I'm not sure how it could happen.

I'm just glad this election reduces the threat of any idiotic immigration reform.
 
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Pardon me for not being up on my immigration reform, but aren't the conservatives the ones that want tougher immigration laws?
 
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How does taking the wars out of the budget help deficit.spending? Republicans... Just like dem lites.
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VOLatile said:
Pardon me for not being up on my immigration reform, but aren't the conservatives the ones that want tougher immigration laws?
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Yes. What we don't want, however, is some bull**** amnesty law that doesn't prevent illegal immigration and just condones the behavior.
 
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IPorange said:
How does taking the wars out of the budget help deficit.spending? Republicans... Just like dem lites.
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wars should be supplemental spending. If you take the money that's being spent now and add it to the budget, what happens when the wars are over? Do you honestly think that anybody in Washington DC is going to see that spending appropriation that's not doing anything and not rush to find something else to spend the money on?

You're right that whether it's on budget or not, it adds to the deficit, but leaving it off budget is preferable in my opinion.
 
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We're screwed. We should just surrender our economic position to China.
 
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sjt18 said:
So you wanted them to lay out legislation on the eve of their election?

I have some ideas if they want to give me a call starting with an immediate freeze of all non-hazardous federal pay which can only be lifted after all Departments are "right sized" like so many corporations have had to do.

Eliminate the Dept of Education which... does not educate a single child and replace it with block grants to states minus the previous admin costs.

For that matter, create a voucher system worth $6000 per child to the parent and save about $4000 per kid while yielding better education.

Eliminate the faith based initiatives since they are unconstitutional anyway.

Eliminate the CPB, NEA, Dept of Energy with necessary functions rolling into Interior, sell certain parks and historical sites to states or non-profits.

Then there are the positive things they can do. Create grants to support the building of nuclear plants across the country. Open up US oil fields... Make the US an energy exporter rather than importer.

Adopt a reciprical trade policy rather than a free trade policy. Countries that use slave labor should not have free access to our markets.

No it doesn't. If Obama allows the "tax cuts on the wealthy" to expire revenues will stay the same at best but more than likely fall as small businesses go out of business, raise prices to cover, stop expanding, or shrink (layoff employees).

Who specifically said that?

Really? Some have openly talked about increasing the retirement age.



No it isn't. It may require more courage than they actually have but the platform itself is VERY sustainable.
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Your wasting your time with good ideas and proven truths, not what this lawyer with a lot of time on his hands really wants to hear.
 
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MG1968 said:
repeal the health care legislation

freeze spending, for everything including the military

put Iraq and Afghanistan spending where it belongs, which is off-budget

keep personal income taxes at current rates

cut capital gains taxes, eliminate the death tax, reduce corporate taxes

end taxpayer support for public broadcasting

abolish federal employee unions

eliminate the departments of energy, education, commerce, and agriculture

privatize amtrak and possibly the US Postal Service

end foreign aid to governments that could be considered hostile to the US

begin a partial privatization of Social Security, increase retirement age for full benefits to age 70, means test potential recipients. Pass a Constitutional amendment that will completely eliminate the program within 20 years.

reduce Congressional staffs, reduce congressional trips, eliminate Congressional retirement benefits that kick in for life after serving only 6 years
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Of those, the only one that would have a significant impact would be raising the retirement age/eliminating SS and there is no way that happens.
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