Soooooo Peterman........

[jkleno]

Good lord you people are like two year old kids. WTF have we got to choose right now?

*Fact: Worley won the first significant game in a long time at UT.
*Fact: We are stuck with Dobbs as the QB right now likely for the remainder of regular season minimum.
*Fact: Dobbs showed some flashes of greatness and some utter inexperience with some terrible decisions like most true freshman QBs with potential.

Now can we quit tearing one or the other down and support both since it just makes sense given the situation?

You just tore down Dobbs!!!! "WE ARE STUCK WITH DOBBS" is what you said. That seems hypocritical to me.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Dude you have got to be as disillusioned as a "call a spade a spade than I've ever witnessed. You have a TRUE freshman that's better in all facets of the game except experience. All you have to do is look up te statistics. Dobbs completed 61% Worley only did better against AP and was worse against Everybody including S. Alabama. On the read option he killed the plays because JW would never keep it so DE were not forced to read but could crash down, and hurt the running game. Theres no way moving on from Worley is a bad things at all. There's a reason he is from SC and Sparrow the qb and old ball coach didn't want him.

And also you talk about bad balls North doesn't make sports center top 10 if not for those miraculous catches of those bad balls against SC. Worley repeatedly throws balls behind and above his wrs so please relax. Last thing have you ever watched Peyton throw? It ain't about velocity at all times. It's touch and timing. Learn the game before you spat off about nothing.

Your argument about "the ole ball coach" not wanting him is dumb. A lot of SC fans still scratch their heads about that, even more so now that Worley handed them their first upset of the season (and our first in 4 seasons).

As for your argument about "North's catches were only good because of badly thrown balls" thank you for shorty after telling me to "learn the game" and showing your ignorance. I can think of one catch that Marquez made a great play on a bad throw and that was the WK game. And yes, Worley had a terrible habit of throwing balls late and behind back then. He got better. Every other Marquez catch, especially the SC catch, was a great play by both the QB and the receiver.

That's cute that you throw out statistics of one game and say it makes Dobbs better. The truth is, Mizzou has a GLARING weakness and it is their secondary. A weakness Dobbs exploited with our whopping 3 points. Which is why I say Worley would have had a better showing. You guys underestimate the concept of a "game manager". A game manager can move the sticks. And when he gets within striking distance you can usually feel pretty confident something good will come out of it.

Be honest with yourself, at any given time did you really feel like Dobbs was going to get us into the endzone? I didn't. Spent the whole game just hoping he could get us within field goal range.

And your argument about velocity is hilarious. Using Peyton as an example? You know who Peyton is, right? I feel like the velocity on his throws fails to support your argument. Peyton throws bullets. Yes velocity is crucial. And yes Worley has more of it than Dobbs.

Anything else?

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Your assessment of QB talent is simply terrible! Sounds like you'd be much better at playing cards.

Uhhh...... ok. Is that your whole contribution to the conversation?

 

[1truevol]

Uhhh...... ok. Is that your whole contribution to the conversation?

That and the fact the Dobbs should remain our starter. He's simply a better athlete,gives us the true read option threat,shows good arm strength,the ability to throw on the run,etc....

 

[rlstone11]

Posts like this make me wonder if there's crystal meth in the water somewhere.

1) Anyone should rather see him as the backup rather than burn another redshirt off both our Frosh.
2) He played for one half. It was a bummer of a half, yes. But, to think that is is as bad as what happened that one half is silly. (reminder: in the Swamp for his first start ever as a collegiate QB) Stuff like that tend to be anomalies. If, for example, we played him for 2 straight games, and every drive was similar to the few we saw him in at UF, then OK. He would clearly need more work.

Personally, I'm glad to have him as the backup over Ferguson, cause something tells me Ferguson is pretty decent, and we're going to want to keep his redshirt.

4-12 for 5 yds and 4 turnovers. Not sure we can afford even 2 similar drives from him if he came in against Auburn before burning Ferg's redshirt. I was at that game. We might have won if we'd only given Peteredout 2 series instead of 4.

 

[aheady13]

Dobbs is better than Worley even when Worley's healthy. Simply a better athlete and will only get better. He needs to be our starter!

Just 100% true. I'm not hating on Worley what-so-ever. Did a good job during SC and played injured during Bama. Give him credit. Dobbs just looks better as a freshman. Think he will be boss in the years to come

 

[UT_Dutchman]

Dobbs is better than Worley even when Worley's healthy. Simply a better athlete and will only get better. He needs to be our starter!

I'll give you he may be a bettet athlete, but he seems to make alot of the same mistakes Worley was making before the Uga game. Get over it if Worley was healthy he would be our best chance. I wear the orange colored glasses some, but some of you are living in an imaginary world.

 

[MiramarVol]

Your argument about "the ole ball coach" not wanting him is dumb. A lot of SC fans still scratch their heads about that, even more so now that Worley handed them their first upset of the season (and our first in 4 seasons).

As for your argument about "North's catches were only good because of badly thrown balls" thank you for shorty after telling me to "learn the game" and showing your ignorance. I can think of one catch that Marquez made a great play on a bad throw and that was the WK game. And yes, Worley had a terrible habit of throwing balls late and behind back then. He got better. Every other Marquez catch, especially the SC catch, was a great play by both the QB and the receiver.

That's cute that you throw out statistics of one game and say it makes Dobbs better. The truth is, Mizzou has a GLARING weakness and it is their secondary. A weakness Dobbs exploited with our whopping 3 points. Which is why I say Worley would have had a better showing. You guys underestimate the concept of a "game manager". A game manager can move the sticks. And when he gets within striking distance you can usually feel pretty confident something good will come out of it.

Be honest with yourself, at any given time did you really feel like Dobbs was going to get us into the endzone? I didn't. Spent the whole game just hoping he could get us within field goal range.

And your argument about velocity is hilarious. Using Peyton as an example? You know who Peyton is, right? I feel like the velocity on his throws fails to support your argument. Peyton throws bullets. Yes velocity is crucial. And yes Worley has more of it than Dobbs.

Anything else?

You keep grinding that axe every day about Dobbs. We get it that you don't like him.

 

[1truevol]

I'll give you he may be a bettet athlete, but he seems to make alot of the same mistakes Worley was making before the Uga game. Get over it if Worley was healthy he would be our best chance. I wear the orange colored glasses some, but some of you are living in an imaginary world.

So just forget that he "runs" the read option the way it's supposed to be run,can throw on the run,throws a more catchable ball,lead the team in rushing,is freaky smart,had two touchdowns dropped when the game was in the balance, etc.....! I think you're the one living in an imaginary world if you think Worley's the long term answer!

 

[majic73]

So just forget that he "runs" the read option the way it's supposed to be run,can throw on the run,throws a more catchable ball,lead the team in rushing,is freaky smart,had two touchdowns dropped when the game was in the balance, etc.....! I think you're the one living in an imaginary world if you think Worley's the long term answer!

Dobbs has more potential ...but is not there yet . 3 turnovers and 8 redzone trips with only 3 points .

Worley was improving and moving the sticks. He is gone now. Lets hope Dobbs puts it all together very soon

 

[GrowVol]

Maybe Peterman can start against Vandy and throw 4 int's in 3 attempts.




J/k glad he's back healthy.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

You keep grinding that axe every day about Dobbs. We get it that you don't like him.

Actually I do like Dobbs. He's not terrible. Worley is just better.

 

[1truevol]

Dobbs has more potential ...but is not there yet . 3 turnovers and 8 redzone trips with only 3 points .

Worley was improving and moving the sticks. He is gone now. Lets hope Dobbs puts it all together very soon

Dobbs does have more potential...combine that with his intelligence and it should turn to PRODUCTION pretty quickly. He hasn't had a fraction of the first team reps that Worley's had and he more than held his own. Dobbs didn't lose the Mizzo game...those around him didn't show up!

 

[majic73]

Dobbs does have more potential...combine that with his intelligence and it should turn to PRODUCTION pretty quickly. He hasn't had a fraction of the first team reps that Worley's had and he more than held his own. Dobbs didn't lose the Mizzo game...those around him didn't show up!

agree with all except the last part . Take the QB turnovers off the board and convert some in the redzone ..we are in it to win it . Plus the D is on the field half the time they were and exposed less.

Dobbs did a great job for a 1st start for a true freshman and I feel like he will soon turn stats to production ..he has the skills and the intelligence. Lets hope he 'gets it' before Sat or at a minimum before UK Vandy

 

[de1conley]

Actually I do like Dobbs. He's not terrible. Worley is just better.

Dude Worley is not better, nor is he a good fit for thia offense. Either you're a permanent drunk or Just have a low football IQ.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Dude Worley is not better, nor is he a good fit for thia offense. Either you're a permanent drunk or Just have a low football IQ.

He is better. Dobbs is better as a freshman than Worley was as a freshman. But if someone came to you right now and said "Here's a college football team, you get 12 games, you have to pick either Dobbs or Worley as your QB" you're honestly telling me you would pick Dobbs?

 

[1truevol]

He is better. Dobbs is better as a freshman than Worley was as a freshman. But if someone came to you right now and said "Here's a college football team, you get 12 games, you have to pick either Dobbs or Worley as your QB" you're honestly telling me you would pick Dobbs?

Yep....and it wouldn't take me long to make that pick. The kid has had a fraction of 1st team reps compared to Worley and he's more than held his own. He's just a better athlete and is a much better fit for this offense.

 

[ShoalCreekVol]

I will make one comparison that I haven't seen stated yet, but it's been on my mind since the second half of the Bama game. It was reinforced as I went through the Mizzou game on my DVR play-by-play.

*Josh Dobbs is Casey Clausen Cool*

This kid is unflappable, and at a level that reminds me of the Ice Man. Maybe he's dying of nerves on the inside but man he just gets up every play and runs the next one. And he does it at top 10 teams' stadiums on the road. He's young, naive, skinny, and has every reason to be intimidated but he just goes out there and looks it down like he definitely ain't skeered.

After years of Dooley and Bray, I think the combination of Butch's Stones and Dobbs' Cool might be just what this team needs for the foreseeable future.

 

[gnm53108]

I will make one comparison that I haven't seen stated yet, but it's been on my mind since the second half of the Bama game. It was reinforced as I went through the Mizzou game on my DVR play-by-play.

*Josh Dobbs is Casey Clausen Cool*

This kid is unflappable, and at a level that reminds me of the Ice Man. Maybe he's dying of nerves on the inside but man he just gets up every play and runs the next one. And he does it at top 10 teams' stadiums on the road. He's young, naive, skinny, and has every reason to be intimidated but he just goes out there and looks it down like he definitely ain't skeered.

After years of Dooley and Bray, I think the combination of Butch's Stones and Dobbs' Cool might be just what this team needs for the foreseeable future.

Good post.

I agree Dobbs displayed alot of "cool" in autzen. The biggest difference was Casey's cool led to victories...hence the "Iceman".

 

[rockytop114]

He is better. Dobbs is better as a freshman than Worley was as a freshman. But if someone came to you right now and said "Here's a college football team, you get 12 games, you have to pick either Dobbs or Worley as your QB" you're honestly telling me you would pick Dobbs?

is this a joke..? are you joking..

Dobbs all day

 

[Orangedogsrule]

If Peterman even gets a whiff of the grass on the field, then Butch ought to be fired on the spot !

:think_not: Knee jerk reaction if you ask me. Peterman never had a chance to settle down against a pretty good lizard D before he injured his finger, and he stayed in much too long after; and that led to his poor showing. Why he stayed in so long after the injury is what is open to discussion in my opinion. Was that on him or the coaches? ...whatever, but we really don't know whether he can or can not get comfortable during a real game and lead the team. He's still an unknown.

 

[40Cap]

:think_not: Knee jerk reaction if you ask me. Peterman never had a chance to settle down against a pretty good lizard D before he injured his finger, and he stayed in much too long after; and that led to his poor showing. Why he stayed in so long after the injury is what is open to discussion in my opinion. Was that on him or the coaches? ...whatever, but we really don't know whether he can or can not get comfortable during a real game and lead the team. He's still an unknown.

Thanks for being reasonable.
Remember Casey Clausen against Florida in 2002? Imagine if that were his debut. How many fans would have wanted him to ever start another game. Point being, it's a little bit of an over-reaction to judge a player based simply on 1 horrific outing. Guys have bad games, freshmen have bad games, freshmen making their 1st start, on the road, against a really good D, w/ a bad hand, have bad games. Not the end of the world if this guy gets another shot at some point.

 

[1972 Grad]

Good post.

I agree Dobbs displayed alot of "cool" in autzen. The biggest difference was Casey's cool led to victories...hence the "Iceman".

I didn't think that Dobbs even made the trip to Autzen. I know that he didn't play.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

is this a joke..? are you joking..

Dobbs all day

Yep....and it wouldn't take me long to make that pick. The kid has had a fraction of 1st team reps compared to Worley and he's more than held his own. He's just a better athlete and is a much better fit for this offense.

Ok well hopefully neither of you will have to play Mizzou. Or if you do you better hope your defense can hold them to less than 3 points.

 

[1truevol]

Ok well hopefully neither of you will have to play Mizzou. Or if you do you better hope your defense can hold them to less than 3 points.

You obviously don't know the game well enough to fully realize how the two TDs he had dropped could've turned the whole game around. Those two drops and the fumble he had happened when the game was still in the balance. Two of the three INTs happened in the second half when the game was out of reach and he started pressing trying to make something happen. Sorry....but the kid's simply better than Worley. Obviously you need more time.....you'll see.