SOS BS for Playoff Births

[Orangedogsrule]

Per CFB Matrix SOS is not going to be as important as plain old winning. The reasoning is that in the BCS era the polls ruled. There are hundreds and hundreds of people involved in the AP, Coaches, etc, & the computer rankings. Enough that the scheduling of a more difficult SOS can reasonably be expected to benefit in football polls as it does in basketball RPI.

However, with only a baker's dozen on the championship selection committee, they can not in any stretch watch enough conference much less OOC games for the OOC to factor in their thinking. They'll have to depend on 'others' for help. The playoff teams will be those unbeaten or with 1 and at most 2 losses. Where will OOC come into play?

Steel sharpens steel as with Oklahoma, or does an early season loss like that gar-un-tee no chance for the playoffs?

 

[Other_Guy]

SOS will always be factored whether they say its super important or not. Not a fan of such a small commitee deciding. Why couldn't we use the BCS formula to decide it? At least then a lot of people continue to decide the playoff instead of us accusing the commitee of putting in who they want (you know that's gonna happen). I mean C Rice is on the commitee right? Wth?

 

[dougvolfan]

I saw Condoleezza Rice as well. I guess she will keep al qaeda out of the nc game?

 

[Biopsyman]

Wait til there is hookers and money involved

 

[Orangedogsrule]

SOS may factor, but I think I'm changing how I think about it, the steel sharpens steel and all. I used to be for playing the tough OOC game or two. Now I don't think it's wise, especially for an SEC team. It's going to be hard to get through the SEC year in year out without two or three losses anyway. Three losses and you won't be considered by the committee. Two losses and only extra ordinary circumstances get you in, a high profile OOC win could help. But for UT right now and for the next few years, why schedule the OK's & Oregon's so early, before even real conference play gets started?

 

[dovervolz]

Wait til there is hookers and money involved

I'm guessing that's already happened some. How else do you explain the Pac10 being so well represented on the committee

 

[GrowVol]

If I understand it right(?), OOC schedules are made years in advance. From what I understand, if a team you schedule to play 4-6 yrs ago when they where down....then gets up, you can buy it out. I respect us not buying out of tough OOC games(even if we had the money to do so).
The cool thing about SOS of schedule with the committee now, is that they will discuss.... "who did they play...OOC or IC?" "Does a dominant 11-1 trump a 10-2?" The days of deciding that a Bama type team match up with an ND type team(2012) to decide NC...are gone.

 

[Peytons forehead]

Condalezza rice sounds like a Mexican dish.

 

[volgrad500]

I saw Condoleezza Rice as well. I guess she will keep al qaeda out of the nc game?

Why? She didn't keep then out of Manhattan. She has NO PLACE on this committee

 

[Catbone]

Relax... SEC Championship game will most likely always get a playoff bid. 1 of the power 5 will have to sit out though which will be interesting

 

[bamawriter]

If I understand it right(?), OOC schedules are made years in advance. From what I understand, if a team you schedule to play 4-6 yrs ago when they where down....then gets up, you can buy it out. I respect us not buying out of tough OOC games(even if we had the money to do so).
The cool thing about SOS of schedule with the committee now, is that they will discuss.... "who did they play...OOC or IC?" "Does a dominant 11-1 trump a 10-2?" The days of deciding that a Bama type team match up with an ND type team(2012) to decide NC...are gone.

You are going to be so incredibly disappointed.

 

[GrowVol]

You are going to be so incredibly disappointed.

Have been and will be for a while...could have told you that.
Has Slive made mention of SOS in regards to playoff committee?

 

[Other_Guy]

If I understand it right(?), OOC schedules are made years in advance. From what I understand, if a team you schedule to play 4-6 yrs ago when they where down....then gets up, you can buy it out. I respect us not buying out of tough OOC games(even if we had the money to do so).
The cool thing about SOS of schedule with the committee now, is that they will discuss.... "who did they play...OOC or IC?" "Does a dominant 11-1 trump a 10-2?" The days of deciding that a Bama type team match up with an ND type team(2012) to decide NC...are gone.

The BCS was never bad. The retarded BCS "BOWLS" were the problem. Such idiotic matchups.

 

[Other_Guy]

It was also hard to know ND was that much out of their league.

 

[GrowVol]

It was also hard to know ND was that much out of their league.

Hopefully the PC will sort it out better. I like to believe that they will be more in tune as to match ups...

 

[bamawriter]

Have been and will be for a while...could have told you that.
Has Slive made mention of SOS in regards to playoff committee?

Not that I know of. But he isn't involved with the committee in any way, so I'm not sure what insights he could provide.

 

[bamawriter]

Hopefully the PC will sort it out better. I like to believe that they will be more in tune as to match ups...

Who would you have expected them to put in in 2012? Hypothetically, I mean.

 

[GrowVol]

Not that I know of. But he isn't involved with the committee in any way, so I'm not sure what insights he could provide.

Sec meetings 5/14...

 

[bamawriter]

Sec meetings 5/14...

I'm not sure what you're referring to. The whole bogus argument that the eight game conference schedule is just as good, SOS wise, as a nine game schedule?

 

[Quaint88]

Per CFB Matrix SOS is not going to be as important as plain old winning. The reasoning is that in the BCS era the polls ruled. There are hundreds and hundreds of people involved in the AP, Coaches, etc, & the computer rankings. Enough that the scheduling of a more difficult SOS can reasonably be expected to benefit in football polls as it does in basketball RPI.

However, with only a baker's dozen on the championship selection committee, they can not in any stretch watch enough conference much less OOC games for the OOC to factor in their thinking. They'll have to depend on 'others' for help. The playoff teams will be those unbeaten or with 1 and at most 2 losses. Where will OOC come into play?

Steel sharpens steel as with Oklahoma, or does an early season loss like that gar-un-tee no chance for the playoffs?

I really don't see how SOS could be less important now. If anything, it's more important. There are only four play-off spots for five Power-5 conference champions and some teams potentially deserving of an at-large bid. The play-off committee needs OOC games between Power-5 conference teams in order to make some attempt at ranking the conferences to aid in their decisions. In some cases, two teams in the same conference that didn't play each other may be considered. There may be a way to separate them based on cross-divisional opponents, but if there isn't, OOC schedules would have to be considered. If anything, we need every Power-5 conference team to play an OOC Power-5 opponent to give the committee the best possible information, because somebody is getting left out, and it would be nice if they get it right.

In addition to that, there will be times when one of the non-Power-5 conference champions is undefeated when only 1 or 2 of the Power-5 conference champions are. You can't just keep them out without justification. That justification is SOS.