Southern Baptist leader wants to genetically alter gays, To make them straight before

[OrangeEmpire]

As a Southern Baptist this makes me sick!

Albert Mohler, the president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, wants Christians to support the science of identifying and genetically altering gay babies to be straight. HUH?

Then I think of those opposed to homosexuality because they say it was a choice, something not caused by biology.

Now this guy seems to accept that it's biology but the "gay genes" should be removed from potential gays before they are born so they won't sin.

This has got be the most facist idea I've ever heard coming out of the Christian right.

Why?

Thoughts?

 

[utvolpj]

So he accepts the view that God created them this way (knew them before in the womb kinda thing) but wants to change His will? Amazing...

 

[OrangeEmpire]

So he accepts the view that God created them this way (knew them before in the womb kinda thing) but wants to change His will? Amazing...

That is what I say............

Then to go as far as saying genetically altering someone...........:dunno:

 

[hohenfelsvol]

Can they take away my beer gut gene?

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Why not choose your childs hair and eye color?

 

[vader]

Can they take away my beer gut gene?

Can they make it retroactive for me?

 

[OrangeEmpire]

We will alter your metabolism.

 

[vader]

As someone who grew up Southern Baptist, this makes me sick, too.

 

[Vol Mania 21]

I don't believe for one second that someone can be born gay. that's the biggest bunch of crap i've ever heard.

 

[CSpindizzy]

Take away the 'criminal' gene. Sounds like the the eugenics line of thinking of the Nazis.

I guess free will is out the door since this guy supports freeing us of sinful behavior before we are born.

"Don't worry Jesus. No need for forgiveness and you dying and your resurrection. We can wipe sin out with science."

 

[vader]

I don't believe for one second that someone can be born gay. that's the biggest bunch of crap i've ever heard.

Well that certainly clears that up. If you don't believe it, it can't be true. :crazy:

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Well that certainly clears that up. If you don't believe it, it can't be true. :crazy:

How does that gene get reproduced?

 

[TennTradition]

I don't believe for one second that someone can be born gay. that's the biggest bunch of crap i've ever heard.

I don't see why it is impossible. Wouldn't you say that your genes code for who you are ... including how you will respond to a given set of inputs (such as life experiences). You can take two people and they will respond differently to the same inputs ... I'm almost certain of it ... and the only explanation for that (to me) would be that they are predisposed to act that way because of a certain genetic makeup. Now, I don't think (necessarily) that all homosexuals are born that way. But, what I do believe, is that because of their genetic makeup (incluing influences on brain chemistry), given certain external stimuli, these people become homosexual. That may not be the case for all...perhaps some are attracted to their same sex from day one. However, I know that I wasn't attracted to anyone at birth. In time, I became attracted to the opposite sex...through external stimuli...perhaps given another genetic makeup, I would have slowly grown into a homosexual given those same stimuli.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

given certain external stimuli, these people become homosexual.

Like a Manchurian candidate?

 

[CSpindizzy]

Watch that deck of cards....I guess the Queen cards are the stimuli?

 

[TennTradition]

Like a Manchurian candidate?

well, that wasn't what I was going for. I basically meant the sum of one's experiences.

 

[allvol123]

That is what I say............

Then to go as far as saying genetically altering someone...........:dunno:

So if pedophilia were determined to have a genetic fix, you would be against this?

 

[BigPapaVol]

So if pedophilia were determined to have a genetic fix, you would be against this?

Comparing pedophilia to homosexuality is a bit of a stretch.

 

[CSpindizzy]

As I said, what of any other criminal type behavior? Who governs what is behavior worth 'removing'? What are the consequences? Who is to say this is not junk science?

Where is the line drawn on what to 'cleanse'?

 

[allvol123]

Comparing pedophilia to homosexuality is a bit of a stretch.

Please show me where I compared homosexuality to pedophilia....

I was commenting on the outrage over genetically altering someone.

It is obviously a very blurry line.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Please show me where I compared homosexuality to pedophilia....

I was commenting on the outrage over genetically altering someone.

It is obviously a very blurry line.

I was under the impression that this thread was about genetic alteration of homosexuality in babies.

 

[allvol123]

I was under the impression that this thread was about genetic alteration of homosexuality in babies.

You must also be under the impression that every thread in VN adheres strictly to the title. There was a comment made that genetically altering someone was a bit of an absurd idea. I played off that. You can connect the dots if you are willing, or not.

 

[CSpindizzy]

You're in a political forum. Rest assured digression is a commonplace item in anything political.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

You're in a political forum. Rest assured digression is a commonplace item in anything political.

Surely not!

:shaking2:

 

[CSpindizzy]

I do not recall Senator.