Special Election Race in MA to fill Kennedy's seat

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Monday: Republican Scott Brown and Democrat Martha Coakley make last minute preparations before a debate on the campus of the University of Massachusetts in Boston

FOXNews.com - Mass. Voters to Decide Fate of Obama's Agenda

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34923900/ns/politics-capitol_hill/

Seems to be really tight, and honestly if Scott wins, that may just doom the Democrat's current agenda and schemes to get stuff pushed out the door. May be a long shot but should be interesting, especially considering this is usually a very largely blue state.
 
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I can't believe the polls that have came out lately, some have Brown up as much as 10 points. It appears he will win and even if not the dems socialist agenda is doomed.
 
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The more I read about Brown the more I like him. He is pretty level headed politically.
 
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It is so hard to tell. In fact I'm not going to watch that part of it that closely, I am more focused on the results. I just think this may be a barometer for the coming year's elections. The thing is I go agree that I think America is trying to voice their disgust at the Socialist Agenda, but unfortunately to most the Republicans are almost as socialist. That is the image (if they even care) they need to shake and truly back up with actual candidates who feel that way too.
 
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A Republican winning a Senate seat in Massachussettes is big news. Even bigger against the backdrop of the administration's struggle to keep its momentum, especially on health care. One wonders how much of this is directly related to that versus the strengths and weaknesses of the individual candidates (she just seems BEYOND dull to me). But, regardless of the actual reason for this, if it does indeed go to Brown the GOP will rightfully hail it as a significant mark against Obama.
 
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The state of Mass already insures close to 98% of it's citizens. Why in the heck would they vote in someone that will vote for them to pay to insure the rest of the country?
 
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lawgator1 said:
A Republican winning a Senate seat in Massachussettes is big news. Even bigger against the backdrop of the administration's struggle to keep its momentum, especially on health care. One wonders how much of this is directly related to that versus the strengths and weaknesses of the individual candidates (she just seems BEYOND dull to me). But, regardless of the actual reason for this, if it does indeed go to Brown the GOP will rightfully hail it as a significant mark against Obama.
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Time to venture out of that box you call reality.

This is a direct referendum on health care and Obama and nothing else.

Despite what you may think, people hate gov't intrusion on their lives!
 
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Appears to have got it done.

The shenanigans over the coming weeks are going to be interesting, though. The Tammany Hall crew is going to hissy for a bit on this one.
 
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lawgator1 said:
A Republican winning a Senate seat in Massachussettes is big news. Even bigger against the backdrop of the administration's struggle to keep its momentum, especially on health care. One wonders how much of this is directly related to that versus the strengths and weaknesses of the individual candidates (she just seems BEYOND dull to me). But, regardless of the actual reason for this, if it does indeed go to Brown the GOP will rightfully hail it as a significant mark against Obama.
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I agree with OE's assesment as well that people are tired of the gov't getting involved in their lives. However, law I see what you are getting at. I really am not taking this victory, or if the mid terms end up giving R's complete control of both houses (not very likely) as a sudden change to the right. I honestly think it's just a pendulum swing, due to a large portion (the deciding factor) who just vote one way to get the other way out. I think the main problem is that that independent demographic likes what the R's (or conservatives) say about fiscal policy, but also like what the D's say (or liberals) say about social stuff. So they get torn. My observation at least.
 
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lawgator1 said:
A Republican winning a Senate seat in Massachussettes is big news. Even bigger against the backdrop of the administration's struggle to keep its momentum, especially on health care. One wonders how much of this is directly related to that versus the strengths and weaknesses of the individual candidates (she just seems BEYOND dull to me). But, regardless of the actual reason for this, if it does indeed go to Brown the GOP will rightfully hail it as a significant mark against Obama.
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:lolabove:


When I have time I'll dig up your other predictions - like the one about Republicans being down for the long term. Good stuff.
 
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Brown's speech is interesting. Said it was a great victory for independent voters in MA. Also praised Ted Kennedy and hoped to serve as well as he did.

Hope there is something real here about independence, small government and leave the social issues out.
 
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Olbermann is losing it - they just cut the speech to autopsy the loss with stuff they've already reported.
 
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That's what I was referring to - he started to go down the basketball path when MSNBC cut him off for insane Olbermann ranting.

Now MSNBC chooses to show that clip as their "coverage" of his acceptance speech.

I"m pretty stunned by what I'm seeing on MSNBC.
 
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The commentators that say this isn't a referendum on Administration policy don't get that it's that very disconnect that landed them in this situation.
 
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GAVol said:
The commentators that say this isn't a referendum on Administration policy don't get that it's that very disconnect that landed them in this situation.
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almost 3 hours of MSNBC and they are spiraling deeper into this disconnect.

not once have they even hinted that there might be a single positive attribute or policy position of Brown.

they have pointed out he's an advocate of water boarding :blink:

they've speculated every possible way of legislatively pushing through HC reform without once questioning if maybe it shouldn't pass as is; without ever questioning if what voters are saying matters.

at least Fox puts on opposing pundits. this is amazing.
 
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brown was more casual than coakley - that's why she lost; she's a tough Attorney General afterall.

voters want casual men not tough women.

un-freaking-believable.
 
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volinbham said:
brown was more casual than coakley - that's why she lost; she's a tough Attorney General afterall.

voters want casual men not tough women.

un-freaking-believable.
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I just saw that. It's like having somebody wake you up with a bullhorn and then not being able to understand why you woke up.

. . . and Matthews looks like he has hemorrhoids.
 
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Lawrence O'Donnell just said Brown won due to things outside of Washington like the underwear bomber.
 
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David Gergen is the brightest of all the lefties and he said in no uncertain terms that if the admin doesn't think this is about Obama's politics, they are in la la land.
 
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