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Ok if someone has already started a post, I apologize.

I could not believe the coverage we had against UGA. What do ya'll think? I know BQ over kicked the coverage but you still have to stay in your lanes. Once in a game is bad, but twice?! :realmad:
 
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It was definitely the most frustrating thing about that game. It was just a crazy special teams night all around.

I have a feeling that they'll be working hard the next couple of weeks on the special teams.......again..
 
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well, it was feast or famine. 4 of the coverages on kick offs were great, one was terrible. one punt coverage was terrible. and we blocked a punt, and had 2 or 3 kick offs thru the end zone..so it was either REALLY good, or painfully bad.

on the punt, everyone was all on the same side of the feild, and on the kick off, everyone was on either side of the feild...just looked like we blew it completely in both instances.

i said it another thread, this coaching by comittee thing isn't working...someone needs to be in charge if nothing else for accountablity's sake.
 
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OWB said:
It was definitely the most frustrating thing about that game. It was just a crazy special teams night all around.

I have a feeling that they'll be working hard the next couple of weeks on the special teams.......again..
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Maybe if VT ends up firing Frank beamer, we can call him to do our Special Teams.
 
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On the punt, I think Colquitt just outpunted the coverage and the ball did not hang in the air as long as it should have. The kickoff return, #35 was out of his lane, leaving the gaping hole up the middle.
 
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jakez4ut said:
well, it was feast or famine. 4 of the coverages on kick offs were great, one was terrible. one punt coverage was terrible. and we blocked a punt, and had 2 or 3 kick offs thru the end zone..so it was either REALLY good, or painfully bad.

on the punt, everyone was all on the same side of the feild, and on the kick off, everyone was on either side of the feild...just looked like we blew it completely in both instances.

i said it another thread, this coaching by comittee thing isn't working...someone needs to be in charge if nothing else for accountablity's sake.
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there is no way it comes down on the side of really good. A PR and KR for a TD, that is awful.
 
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therealUT said:
On the punt, I think Colquitt just outpunted the coverage and the ball did not hang in the air as long as it should have. The kickoff return, #35 was out of his lane, leaving the gaping hole up the middle.
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I don't buy the out kicked the coverage argument. I know what you mean but I remember being told to not be a hero and stay in your lane. I'm sure these guys have heard that all their playing lives as well.
 
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allvol123 said:
there is no way it comes down on the side of really good. A PR and KR for a TD, that is awful.
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exactly, which i thought was covered in my description of those events as "painfully bad".

But there were 4 kick offs that were covered really, really well. No return, down inside 15 at least twice. and a blocked punt. i'd call that really good...???

so in the end, it was as i said, "feast or famine". we were either really bad (KR for TD, PR for TD) or really good (4 ko's with no return, at least two down inside the 15, and a blocked punt).
 
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VolBeef88 said:
I don't buy the out kicked the coverage argument. I know what you mean but I remember being told to not be a hero and stay in your lane. I'm sure these guys have heard that all their playing lives as well.
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me neither...on the punt, everyone was on the same side of the feild...the other side was complete open.

on the Kick off return...we over compinsated, and they were all on either side of the feild, and the middel was open, except for the kicker. by the time they reacted, they were chasing and falling all over one another.
 
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jakez4ut said:
me neither...on the punt, everyone was on the same side of the feild...the other side was complete open.

on the Kick off return...we over compinsated, and they were all on either side of the feild, and the middel was open, except for the kicker. by the time they reacted, they were chasing and falling all over one another.
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Well jake, the field is completely coverd if you stay in your lanes. The only time you break outa your lane is if the return man is completely on the other side and you angle in 10 yards ahead runner to prevent the cut back. We just didn't cover.
 
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It was a break down in discipline on the returns. That simple. ST is all about aggressiveness with discipline.
 
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On the kickoff, we had been placing the ball in the corner all night. Then Wilhoit just let one get away from him and it sailed to the middle, so the tacklers were already out of place. Directional kicking is hard. It happens. Wilhoit is still an All-SEC-caliber kicker and a cornerstone to any success we have this year.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Well jake, the field is completely coverd if you stay in your lanes. The only time you break outa your lane is if the return man is completely on the other side and you angle in 10 yards ahead runner to prevent the cut back. We just didn't cover.
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i'm not sure that we disagree here??? am i missing something?
 
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TennesseeJohn said:
On the kickoff, we had been placing the ball in the corner all night. Then Wilhoit just let one get away from him and it sailed to the middle, so the tacklers were already out of place. Directional kicking is hard. It happens. Wilhoit is still an All-SEC-caliber kicker and a cornerstone to any success we have this year.
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Your right about the directional kicking but that is why you still stay in your lane until you see the reception.
 
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I've thought about the special teams (or lack thereof) since the game and I've concluded that the kicking into the corner on the kickoffs worked. It allows the coverage to get down there and pin the returner against a wall of defenders and out of bounds. However, kicking it that way is also living dangerously as the ball could verye asily go out of bounds if Wilhoit doesn't place it just perfectly to where the returner has no option but to return it. Overall, I just feel it a lot safer to just have Wilhoit kick it through the endzone each time. He's got the leg for it.

On the punts, I'd love for Colquitt to get to the point where he can angle the balls out of bounds. Kick it out of bounds, don't have to worry about a return.
 
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jakez4ut said:
well, it was feast or famine. 4 of the coverages on kick offs were great, one was terrible. one punt coverage was terrible. and we blocked a punt, and had 2 or 3 kick offs thru the end zone..so it was either REALLY good, or painfully bad.

on the punt, everyone was all on the same side of the feild, and on the kick off, everyone was on either side of the feild...just looked like we blew it completely in both instances.

i said it another thread, this coaching by comittee thing isn't working...someone needs to be in charge if nothing else for accountablity's sake.
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Steve Caldwell used to be the sole special teams coach. The committee thing was installed because he did such a bad job for several years. I think the best situation would be to hire a position coach that has some experience coaching special teams well. Maybe Larry Slade's future replacement could fit this criteria. Does anybody know of any decent DB coaches that can coach special teams, as well?
 
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On punt returns and kick-off returns one guy is usually designated the "safety" (not the kicker or punter) and is responsible for preventing a return for a TD.

This is a tough assignment, but a lot of thought needs to placed on who is put in that position. It should be one of the fastest guys on the team and a good tackler. Any of the starting DB's would be a good candidate. Maybe Hefney or Morley. Better to have Morley as the safety instead of the first guy down trying to make the tackle.
 
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