Star Ratings

[dblutfan]

Ran across this and thought some may be interested. It’s a look at how the 2012 first team All-SEC players were rated as recruits.

A look at how 2012 first team All-SEC players were rated as recruits | Saturday Down South

 

[oregonvol]

So most were top 10 at their position? And the most common number is those who were #1 at a position coming out of high school? No big surprise there.

 

[Bluetic]

Man, UT needs more representation on that list...

 

[keckjm]

All I see is that stars matter on defense and not so much on offense.

 

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My takeaway is that 5* offensive players have a tougher time producing than 5* defensive players...hmmm

 

[UTChicagoV]

Average of 3.4 stars on Offense and 4.1 stars on Defense.

Note where the 5 stars are on that list...on the DL, where you really don't need time to mature or learn the scheme. You can make an immediate impact, which is what a 5 star rating means!

The rest of the positions are mostly 3 and 4 stars which means they will be Starters and make an impact within a couple years of stepping on campus.

The ratings make sense if you know what they mean.

 

[oregonvol]

Average of 3.4 stars on Offense and 4.1 stars on Defense.

Note where the 5 stars are on that list...on the DL, where you really don't need time to mature or learn the scheme. You can make an immediate impact, which is what a 5 star rating means!

The rest of the positions are mostly 3 and 4 stars which means they will be Starters and make an impact within a couple years of stepping on campus.

The ratings make sense if you know what they mean.

The list doesn't mean that 3 stars "will" do anything. It just means that out of the vast number of 3 star athletes signed, a handful made it to the top of the pack. Plenty of 3 stars will never do anything in college.

 

[UTChicagoV]

The list doesn't mean that 3 stars "will" do anything. It just means that out of the vast number of 3 star athletes signed, a handful made it to the top of the pack. Plenty of 3 stars will never do anything in college.

:lolabove: That's wrong just based on pure math. Take a look at what the stars mean.

Per About Football Ratings -> A five-star prospect is considered to be one of the nation's top 25-30 players, four star is a top 250-300 or so player, three-stars is a top 750 level player.

There are 117 Teams in D1 with 22 Starters which means there are over 2,500 players starting at any given time. The majority of those guys are 3 stars. Just because they don't garner stats or highlights that make ESPN doesn't mean they aren't there. For a fact , many OL recruits are 3 stars just due to the nature of recruiting rankings and they are almost 25% of the starting 22.

 

[voldawgforever]

So, if you are recruiting, and signing, 3* players on defense, you're screwing up?

 

[Vols4us]

Really nothing to see here at all. Inconclusive is ... inconclusive. The only positions even close to being tied to ratings is D-line and that for only one year. For it to be a reasonable conclusion you would need to include what the ratings were over a 10 year period or more.

 

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Average of 3.4 stars on Offense and 4.1 stars on Defense.

Note where the 5 stars are on that list...on the DL, where you really don't need time to mature or learn the scheme. You can make an immediate impact, which is what a 5 star rating means!

The rest of the positions are mostly 3 and 4 stars which means they will be Starters and make an impact within a couple years of stepping on campus.

The ratings make sense if you know what they mean.

You don't need time to mature to play on the Dline in the SEC?? Are you on crack?

 

[orangeluvr]

You need some 5* and mostly 4* with a few 3* sprinkled in to be successful in our conference. :yes:

 

[Volt]

The reason the DL is mostly 4 and 5 stars is because 300 lb guys that are fast are rarely missed by scouts.

 

[oregonvol]

:lolabove: That's wrong just based on pure math. Take a look at what the stars mean.

Per About Football Ratings -> A five-star prospect is considered to be one of the nation's top 25-30 players, four star is a top 250-300 or so player, three-stars is a top 750 level player.

There are 117 Teams in D1 with 22 Starters which means there are over 2,500 players starting at any given time. The majority of those guys are 3 stars. Just because they don't garner stats or highlights that make ESPN doesn't mean they aren't there. For a fact , many OL recruits are 3 stars just due to the nature of recruiting rankings and they are almost 25% of the starting 22.

What's your point? That there are alot of starters around the country who are 3 star players? Okay. No one is debating that. That also wasn't a part of the discussion. We were talking about players who become exceptional at major programs and make all conference lists in the SEC. Are there 3 stars players who make it? Sure. Are there many more who don't? Absolutely. Are there plenty who never even become a starter in the SEC? Of course. These are all facts.

 

[LibertyVol]

The STAR ratings are fun to follow, but I am still a little hesitant to put too much stock in them. Do these services have football coaches that rate the players? What is the process they use? Does who is recruiting the player influence the rating. Not trying to flame, but just curious.

 

[theutvolunteers]

The STAR ratings are fun to follow, but I am still a little hesitant to put too much stock in them. Do these services have football coaches that rate the players? What is the process they use? Does who is recruiting the player influence the rating. Not trying to flame, but just curious.

The best teams in the SEC have a lot of stars. Draw your own conclusions.

 

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The best teams in the SEC have a lot of stars. Draw your own conclusions.

Agreed. Those who complain about the star system are usually fans of teams that don't have players with a alot of stars by their name.......go figure.

 

[playaut0785]

The best teams in the SEC have a lot of stars. Draw your own conclusions.

Yes. It's insanely easy to see that. But don't bring up that argument here. Now if we were signing a bunch of 4 and 5 star guys like Bama, the tune around here about the "stars system" would change. Then people would agree. But as long as Tennessee signs a bunch of 3 star guys, the homers will defend it to the grave.

You can't win championships in this league without top rated classes. It's been proven too many times.

 

[terrypedigo]

The list doesn't mean that 3 stars "will" do anything. It just means that out of the vast number of 3 star athletes signed, a handful made it to the top of the pack. Plenty of 3 stars will never do anything in college.

A lot of the 4 and 5 dont either, and you have to baby set them.:bottom:

 

[UT Hill Man]

Star ratings deniers and skeptics disagree there is any correlation between the 4 and 5 star ratings that so few players receive, and their chances for success.

 

[1truevol]

The list doesn't mean that 3 stars "will" do anything. It just means that out of the vast number of 3 star athletes signed, a handful made it to the top of the pack. Plenty of 3 stars will never do anything in college.

And there will be a number of 4 stars that won't live up to their hype!

 

[oregonvol]

And there will be a number of 4 stars that won't live up to their hype!

Awesome logic. You've opened my eyes. I now realize that a team filled with 3 stars is just as likely to win as a team filled with 4 and 5 stars.

 

[1truevol]

Awesome logic. You've opened my eyes. I now realize that a team filled with 3 stars is just as likely to win as a team filled with 4 and 5 stars.

No...the logic is that fans shouldn't get too caught up in "star gazing"! Player development is where it's at. I'm sure 3 star Johnny football would tell you the same.

 

[bamawriter]

No...the logic is that fans shouldn't get too caught up in "star gazing"! Player development is where it's at. I'm sure 3 star Johnny football would tell you the same.

Seriously?

Do you really not understand the difference between the exception and the rule?

 

[oregonvol]

No...the logic is that fans shouldn't get too caught up in "star gazing"! Player development is where it's at. I'm sure 3 star Johnny football would tell you the same.

Cool. I guess by that token, NFL GMs should trade all of their 1st round draft picks for 6th round draft picks so they can have a whole team of Tom Bradys.