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19 Crazy Things That School Children Are Being Arrested For In America

All of the stories mentioned are documented. If you go to the article, there are links to the press reports.

When I was growing up, I don't remember a single police officer ever coming to my school. Discipline was always handled by the teachers and by the principals. But today, there are schools all over the country that have police officers permanently stationed in the halls. Many other schools will call out police officers at the drop of a hat.
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#1 At one public school down in Texas, a 12-year-old girl named Sarah Bustamantes was recently arrested for spraying herself with perfume.

#2 A 13-year-old student at a school in Albuquerque, New Mexico was recently arrested by police for burping in class.

#3 Another student down in Albuquerque was forced to strip down to his underwear while five adults watched because he had $200 in his pocket. The student was never formally charged with doing anything wrong.

#4 A security guard at one school in California broke the arm of a 16-year-old girl because she left some crumbs on the floor after cleaning up some cake that she had spilled.

#5 One teenage couple down in Houston poured milk on each other during a squabble while they were breaking up. Instead of being sent to see the principal, they were arrested and sent to court.

#6 In early 2010, a 12-year-old girl at a school in Forest Hills, New York was arrested by police and marched out of her school in handcuffs just because she doodled on her desk. "I love my friends Abby and Faith" was what she reportedly scribbled on her desk.

#7 A 6-year-old girl down in Florida was handcuffed and sent to a mental facility after throwing temper tantrums at her elementary school.

#8 One student down in Texas was reportedly arrested by police for throwing paper airplanes in class.

#9 A 17-year-old honor student in North Carolina named Ashley Smithwick accidentally took her father's lunch with her to school. It contained a small paring knife which he would use to slice up apples. So what happened to this standout student when the school discovered this? The school suspended her for the rest of the year and the police charged her with a misdemeanor.

#10 In Allentown, Pennsylvania a 14-year-old girl was tasered in the groin area by a school security officer even though she had put up her hands in the air to surrender.

#11 Down in Florida, an 11-year-old student was arrested, thrown in jail and charged with a third-degree felony for bringing a plastic butter knife to school.

#12 Back in 2009, an 8-year-old boy in Massachusetts was sent home from school and was forced to undergo a psychological evaluation because he drew a picture of Jesus on the cross.

#13 A police officer in San Mateo, California blasted a 7-year-old special education student in the face with pepper spray because he would not quit climbing on the furniture.

#14 In America today, even 5-year-old children are treated brutally by police. The following is from a recent article that described what happened to one very young student in Stockton, California a while back....

Earlier this year, a Stockton student was handcuffed with zip ties on his hands and feet, forced to go to the hospital for a psychiatric evaluation and was charged with battery on a police officer. That student was 5 years old.

#15 At one school in Connecticut, a 17-year-old boy was thrown to the floor and tasered five times because he was yelling at a cafeteria worker.

#16 A teenager in suburban Dallas was forced to take on a part-time job after being ticketed for using foul language in one high school classroom. The original ticket was for $340, but additional fees have raised the total bill to $637.

#17 A few months ago, police were called out when a little girl kissed a little boy during a physical education class at an elementary school down in Florida.

#18 A 6-year-old boy was recently charged with sexual battery for some "inappropriate touching" during a game of tag at one elementary school in the San Francisco area.

#19 In Massachusetts, police were recently sent out to collect an overdue library book from a 5-year-old girl.
 
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While I find this to be completely absurd, it doesn't surprise me. We've handcuffed our teachers when it comes to discipline. Teachers can't lay a finger on a student; they can barely say a cross word without the threat of a lawsuit. The police aren't, yet, as limited by parental irrationality.
 
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While I find this to be completely absurd, it doesn't surprise me. We've handcuffed our teachers when it comes to discipline. Teachers can't lay a finger on a student; they can barely say a cross word without the threat of a lawsuit. The police aren't, yet, as limited by parental irrationality.

I think that's come in large part from a growing distrust of teachers and of academia in general; I hear all too often these days that if a kid has a problem, it's not the little angel's fault and it's certainly not the parents fault, so it must be on the teacher.

There are a couple bad apples out there, but I'll bet our education system could make big strides if most parents would just recognize that the majority of teachers know what they're doing, and extend them a little trust to do their job.
 
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I think that's come in large part from a growing distrust of teachers and of academia in general; I hear all too often these days that if a kid has a problem, it's not the little angel's fault and it's certainly not the parents fault, so it must be on the teacher.

There are a couple bad apples out there, but I'll bet our education system could make big strides if most parents would just recognize that the majority of teachers know what they're doing, and extend them a little trust to do their job.
The schools today are a dumpster fire and fustercluck on all sides. Teachers that are unqualified are protected by the unions and parents that use the heavy hand of attorneys to handcuff the good teachers that are left. Not to mention the fact that administrators abuse money and get less per dollar spent than some developing countries get in return in the classroom.

Its hard to blame the kids, but they are the ones that have been left to drift in the wind by all sides.
 
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Again, these problems are the result of the actions of the American people. We have done this to ourselves. Give the government any control over your life and they will gladly accept it.
 
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Again, these problems are the result of the actions of the American people. We have done this to ourselves. Give the government any control over your life and they will gladly accept it.

I think it's a problem with our government and our people as well. There is another thread on education. There are dozens of examples of public education systems throughout the world that trounce our schools -- public and private alike.
 
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I think it's a problem with our government and our people as well. There is another thread on education. There are dozens of examples of public education systems throughout the world that trounce our schools -- public and private alike.

Our government is selected by the people. That's what I'm trying to get across. If the people that claim to be upset with our government keep electing the same representatives, are they really upset?
 
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That's a whole other can of worms, I've been barking up that tree for quite some time. When you come to the realization that the vast majority of elected officials are more or less the same as all the others, then there's a systemic problem.
 
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There is a reason I pay for private schools.
the little angles who act like little devils are not there very long. also the class does not slow down for the brat who doesn't want to be there because they're not there.
 
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There's another side to some of these stories that is not available. I have personally seen and been a part of a school squabble either on the bus or campus that were initially handled by the schools and ended up in court because the parents pushed the issue. Also, because of mainstreaming there are situations where kids are in school that have absolutely no business being there. Often times when one of these kids goes off the school calls law enforcement to handle little johnny. Law Enforcement generally have a use of force policy that dictates how they administer force. The officer opens him/herself up to personal liability if said policy is not followed. In other words if you have a 9 year old that is going off in a class room and LE shows up their policy may dictate that they use a taser or pepper spray before going hands on. These policies come from lawsuits that may result from any form use of force (dui, drug bust, assault etc) and may not seem suitable for the kid in the school, but there is no policy and procedure manual that covers every situation that LE faces. I blame the attorneys.
 
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There's another side to some of these stories that is not available. I have personally seen and been a part of a school squabble either on the bus or campus that were initially handled by the schools and ended up in court because the parents pushed the issue. Also, because of mainstreaming there are situations where kids are in school that have absolutely no business being there. Often times when one of these kids goes off the school calls law enforcement to handle little johnny. Law Enforcement generally have a use of force policy that dictates how they administer force. The officer opens him/herself up to personal liability if said policy is not followed. In other words if you have a 9 year old that is going off in a class room and LE shows up their policy may dictate that they use a taser or pepper spray before going hands on. These policies come from lawsuits that may result from any form use of force (dui, drug bust, assault etc) and may not seem suitable for the kid in the school, but there is no policy and procedure manual that covers every situation that LE faces. I blame the attorneys.


It's not the lawyers' fault. It is the fault of the idiots who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty.

If the dolts on juries didn't decide the way they do in civil cases, then it wouldn't matter what the lawyers want. For example, I don't blame the old lady's lawyers, or the judge, I blame the idiots in the jury box who thought an old woman spilling coffee on herself should result in a multimillion dollar payday from Mickey Ds.
 
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It's not the lawyers' fault. It is the fault of the idiots who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty.

If the dolts on juries didn't decide the way they do in civil cases, then it wouldn't matter what the lawyers want. For example, I don't blame the old lady's lawyers, or the judge, I blame the idiots in the jury box who thought an old woman spilling coffee on herself should result in a multimillion dollar payday from Mickey Ds.


You might want to read this before you reference the McDonalds' scalding coffee case.

The Actual Facts about the Mcdonalds' Coffee Case
 
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You might want to read this before you reference the McDonalds' scalding coffee case.

The Actual Facts about the Mcdonalds' Coffee Case

That was a textbook example of a frivilous lawsuit.

She hurt herself through her own actions. McDonalds nor one of their employees spilled the coffee on her. She did it herself.

That is like you punching a wall and breaking your hand and then suing the building owner to pay for your medical bills.
 
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You might want to read this before you reference the McDonalds' scalding coffee case.

The Actual Facts about the Mcdonalds' Coffee Case


I know the facts. Both my grandmothers made coffee on the stove their whole lives and boiled it. Thats 212 degrees if you don't know. Neither of them burned themselves badly.

I burned the crap out of myself on my oven. My fault.

Hot coffee is hot.

McD didn't spill it on her. She did. She improperly used the product. Her fault. Period.

So they serve it hotter than most. So what. A Porsche accelerates faster than a Prius. Can a person who is used to driving a Prius sue Porsche because they took off to fast and wrecked? Nope. Everyone would know it was driver error.

In the computer world we would call that a PIBKAC error (problem is between keyboard and chair) or possibly an ID ten T error (ID10T).
 
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On the plus side, if that woman hadn't spilled that coffee, we wouldn't have McCafe, which is infinitely better than the prison swill they used to serve.
 
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I know the facts. Both my grandmothers made coffee on the stove their whole lives and boiled it. Thats 212 degrees if you don't know. Neither of them burned themselves badly.

I burned the crap out of myself on my oven. My fault.

Hot coffee is hot.

McD didn't spill it on her. She did. She improperly used the product. Her fault. Period.

So they serve it hotter than most. So what. A Porsche accelerates faster than a Prius. Can a person who is used to driving a Prius sue Porsche because they took off to fast and wrecked? Nope. Everyone would know it was driver error.

In the computer world we would call that a PIBKAC error (problem is between keyboard and chair) or possibly an ID ten T error (ID10T).

I've seen a documentary on it, it was an HBO movie called Hot Coffee that looked at tort reform through a handful of cases, that was one of them. The vast majority of the awarded money in that case came after they dug and found that McD's knew of hundreds or thousands of cases or whatever it was about the coffee being served too hot. Also, didn't see it in the link but IIRC they interviewed her in the movie and she said the cup broke. I saw it about a year ago though, so I'm not 100% sure on that.

Anyhow, the blowback from that case has resulted in some messed up ish.
 
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Along with the theme of the thread title....

This is Lily, the new Sesame Street muppet whose parents can't afford to feed her. She is surviving because of free school lunches. Not that I think this is something to make a big deal about*, but it is funny that the show gets public funding and turns around and teaches them young about the benefits of big government.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhJ6hfbn4x8[/youtube]

*Lily endorses private charity, as well.
 
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The American people should be ashamed of themselves and what they have allowed this country to become.
 
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lol. Not saying i support the broad who got money from McDonalds...but if they were serving coffee like 100 degrees hotter so people wouldn't get free seconds...

karma is a bitcc
 
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lol. Not saying i support the broad who got money from McDonalds...but if they were serving coffee like 100 degrees hotter so people wouldn't get free seconds...

karma is a bitcc

Karma? I don't think Karma should come back on you if you make a crappy FREE promotional offer.
 
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Karma? I don't think Karma should come back on you if you make a crappy FREE promotional offer.

so don't make the offer? sounds simple to me. Again, i'm not saying this tard deserved a million dollars for spilling coffee on herself.
 
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so don't make the offer? sounds simple to me. Again, i'm not saying this tard deserved a million dollars for spilling coffee on herself.

No promotions. In fact, don't advertise at all. In fact, don't run your business. Karma will get you for trying to profit from a good or service.
 
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No promotions. In fact, don't advertise at all. In fact, don't run your business. Karma will get you for trying to profit from a good or service.

yes. that's what I meant. lawl. When you make the offer and then intentionally make the coffee too hot to take advantage of the offer...why make it at all?
 
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yes. that's what I meant. lawl. When you make the offer and then intentionally make the coffee too hot to take advantage of the offer...why make it at all?

Because it gets people in your store. It's like charging $.75 more for a frozen pizza and offering a $.75 discount. It's all marketing. Like the first guy who thought of charging $.99 instead of $1.00.
 

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