Stat breakdown for UA/UT

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Bama has an overwhelming advantage in the stats heading into this weekend's game. The schedules of the two teams definitely have something to do with that, but here are some stats that could make a difference anyways.
Bama is 3rd in the SEC in rushing defense while the Vols are 10th in rushing offense. The Tide is 1st in the conference in total defense while UT is 6th. UT's pass defense is ranked 7th, already mediocre and those stats are with Jason Allen in the lineup. Bama's pass offense is 5th in the conference. UT's punt return avg. is 9th best while on kickoff returns they are last. This could pose a problem in field position, especially considering the Tide has the #1 defense in the SEC. Bama's punting is only slightly better than the Vols, Bama is 11th while UT is 12th. I thought Colquitt was one of the best punters in the conference, and I'm not being sarcastic. As far as penalties go, UT ranks 9th in the league while Bama ranks 5th. This could also play a role since this game figures to be very defensive with field position being vital. One more thing, yall keep saying that it's UA/UT so throw out the records and stats because they don't matter. Well recent history says that isn't true. Since 1994, Bama has come into this contest ranked lower than UT in every game. Bama has won only one of those meetings, in 2002. Bama was ranked higher in 94 and won, and this year they come in ranked higher as well. Apparently, records and rankings do matter in this rivalry. Both of these teams are great in time of possession and both have very solid defenses. It appears that this game could very well come down to things like punting, kickoff returns, and penalties deciding field position. It doesn't mean that it is definitely going to though, we'll have to wait and see. I can't wait for this weekend, I love this rivalry.
 
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Why isn't there a "blah, blah, blah" emoticon on here? Now would be a good time for one.
 
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Originally posted by USAF_Vol@Oct 17, 2005 6:52 PM
Why isn't there a "blah, blah, blah" emoticon on here?  Now would be a good  time for one.
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Got to agree. Stats are out the window for the game. :bow: :bow: :bow:
 
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Well if my team was the inferior one in pretty much every statistical category, I'd probably say the same thing. :lol:
 
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Originally posted by BamasBack12@Oct 17, 2005 7:00 PM
Well if my team was the inferior one in pretty much every statistical category, I'd probably say the same thing. :lol:
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8 out of 9 sound inferior to you?
 
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Here's a stat you can think about for a while.

:finger:

Inferior's don't mean squat. This is football.
 
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Originally posted by #10_Ainge_#10@Oct 17, 2005 7:03 PM
8 out of 9 sound inferior to you?
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Thou hitteth the nail upon the head!

Both our teams players know that stat all too well. That, my orange friends, is what will add some fuel to this game. :)
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Originally posted by BamasBack12@Oct 17, 2005 7:50 PM
Bama's pass offense is 5th in the conference.
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You might want to check that. From what I read, Bama's pass offense was 7th and UT's was 4th.

Making things up now huh? :lol:
 
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Originally posted by BamasBack12@Oct 17, 2005 6:50 PM
Bama has an overwhelming advantage in the stats heading into this weekend's game.  The schedules of the two teams definitely have something to do with that, but here are some stats that could make a difference anyways. 
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Let's look at some more stats to see if your conclusion is correct.

Total Offense Bama (394) - UT (336)
Scoring Offense Bama (27 points) - UT (19 points)

Looks like Bama with the edge but let's look at the schedule

Opponents' Total Defense (rank in NCAA)
Bama - 350 ypg (47th) UT - 303 ypg (19th)

Opponents' Scoring Defense (rank in NCAA)
Bama - 22 (43rd) UT - 17 (19th)

Conclusion on offense - Bama's edge is greatly diminished when accounting for quality of opponent's defense.

How about comparing defenses?

Total Defense: Bama - 256 ypg UT - 299 ypg
Scoring Defense: Bama - 11.3 points UT 18 points

Again, let's look at the schedule

Opponents' Total Offense (rank in NCAA)
Bama - 334 ypg (81st) UT - 390 ypg (50th)

Opponents' Scoring Offense
Bama - 24 (69th) UT - 27 (56th)

So as you can see the "overwhelming" statistical edge you claim for Bama disappears when accounting for the level of competition the teams have faced.
 
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you want to teach stats get a teaching job, wanna play football see ya Next Sat
 
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Originally posted by volinbham@Oct 17, 2005 8:13 PM
Let's look at some more stats to see if your conclusion is correct.

Total Offense Bama (394) - UT (336)
Scoring Offense Bama (27 points) - UT (19 points)

Looks like Bama with the edge but let's look at the schedule

Opponents' Total Defense (rank in NCAA)
Bama - 350 ypg (47th)  UT - 303 ypg (19th)

Opponents' Scoring Defense (rank in NCAA)
Bama - 22 (43rd)  UT - 17 (19th)

Conclusion on offense - Bama's edge is greatly diminished when accounting for quality of opponent's defense.

How about comparing defenses?

Total Defense:  Bama - 256 ypg  UT - 299 ypg
Scoring Defense:  Bama - 11.3 points  UT 18 points

Again, let's look at the schedule

Opponents' Total Offense (rank in NCAA)
Bama - 334 ypg (81st)  UT - 390 ypg (50th)

Opponents' Scoring Offense
Bama - 24 (69th)  UT - 27 (56th)

So as you can see the "overwhelming" statistical edge you claim for Bama disappears when accounting for the level of competition the teams have faced.
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Funny, I think one of the first things I said in my post was that the schedules had a lot to do with the advantage that Bama has in the stats. That was a nice waste of time though.
 
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Originally posted by BamasBack12@Oct 18, 2005 12:00 PM
Funny, I think one of the first things I said in my post was that the schedules had a lot to do with the advantage that Bama has in the stats.  That was a nice waste of time though.
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Then why post if you have not taken SOS into account. Your disclaimer pretty much negates your whole post. Volinbham took opponents into account instead of just putting together stats.

However, your point on the special teams was right on. It's the reason for the UF loss. Field position will play a big part of this. Colquitt is a very good punter. He has missed on a couple but has still shown the power that made his brother the MVP at times. His drop seems a little off some times and he needs some more consistency on his hang time. And, after watching both kickers, I think the FG dept. is a draw.
 
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My post says "let's see if your conclusion is correct" - at least the part about the schedule having something to do with it is correct :biggrin2:

Your assessment that the stats overwhelmingly support Bama is not supported.


You remind me of the FedEx commercial - Bamasback12 you're always wrong.

We don't get French benefits
James Dean was an actor, Jimmy Dean makes sausage
Steely Dan was not one person and

The stats do not overwhelmingly support Bama :biggrin2:
 
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You can throw the stats out the window for this one. If the Bama fans need a history lesson, they should remember the year they went to Knoxville with what ESPN then called "a high school team" and beat the 3rd ranked Vols 9-6. Stats don't matter when it comes to the 3rd Saturday in October.
 
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Originally posted by RollTideRoll@Oct 17, 2005 7:08 PM
Thou hitteth the nail upon the head! 

Both our teams players know that stat all too well.  That, my orange friends, is what will add some fuel to this game.  :)
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Can't argue with that - I'm tired of being on the pooh end of that stat - oh I long for the days of stats like 4 UT wins from 1971 to 1994. Until then I'll just return to what us Bama fans do best - live in the past.
 
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Football is a strange game.

There's no way you can play connect the dots with stats or, my team beat this team and your team only beat them by ...

If we were to really look at the stats we could conclude:

Florida beat us by, what 7 and you beat them by 28, so you beat us by 35.

Oh, but wait, we beat Ole miss by 17 and you guys had to kick a field goal with seconds left to win, so we beat you by 14.

When two great teams with two great traditions line up, it's anyone's game.

I'm comfortable with the knowledge that we have more depth than you and our defense is playing lights out against good teams while both of our teams have struggled against mediocre teams.

I'm confident of a win because it's just what we do. We beat Alabama. :biggrin2:
 
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