Stopping forward progress?

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Model12

Model12

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I was watching sporadically last night, and we had a short power run, possibly Fant. Runner was stopped short clearly a foot short on forward progress, thrown back, and stepped forward on second effort to score. No whistle involved.

Same scenario as Music City Bowl, except this one counted.

I wonder if the SEC officials made this a point of discussion after last year's fiasco concerning the rule. Does anyone know how the officials address these "situations" in the off season? I'm sure they don't want to take arrows from fan bases. Thoughts?
 
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It was a fourth down play too, I was surprised they didnt blow the whistle, you dont see many plays allowed to keep going after a stop like that.
 
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If vandy would have actually had a grasp on Fant they probably would have blown it dead, but he just bounced off the initial contact and gathered himself.
 
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utvolpj said:
He bounced back and was never in anyone's grasp.
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This. If the runner isn’t being held up by anyone then he can continue to advance the ball. The refs got it right last night and ruined it in the MCB.
 
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Model12 said:
I was watching sporadically last night, and we had a short power run, possibly Fant. Runner was stopped short clearly a foot short on forward progress, thrown back, and stepped forward on second effort to score. No whistle involved.

Same scenario as Music City Bowl, except this one counted.

I wonder if the SEC officials made this a point of discussion after last year's fiasco concerning the rule. Does anyone know how the officials address these "situations" in the off season? I'm sure they don't want to take arrows from fan bases. Thoughts?
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This is somewhat subjective and completely dependent on the view or interpretation of the particular officiating crew - at the game - at the time. Although they would never admit it - they have even been known to miss a call from time to time.
 
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Model12 said:
I was watching sporadically last night, and we had a short power run, possibly Fant. Runner was stopped short clearly a foot short on forward progress, thrown back, and stepped forward on second effort to score. No whistle involved.

Same scenario as Music City Bowl, except this one counted.

I wonder if the SEC officials made this a point of discussion after last year's fiasco concerning the rule. Does anyone know how the officials address these "situations" in the off season? I'm sure they don't want to take arrows from fan bases. Thoughts?
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It was a different issue with the application of the rule in the MCB. The problem there was they allowed the official to bring the ball back and spot it where he wanted to instead of where the ball was when he blew it dead. I will cut and paste the KEY part of the rule. Bear in mind the "provided in the rules" refers to in these instances down by contact or out of bounds. The official gets to decide when progress is stopped and blow the whistle, but not where to spot the ball other than where it was when he ended the play. Our guy was in the endzone when the whistle sounded and he ran in waving his arms. Here you go.

Live Ball Becomes Dead ARTICLE 2. a. A live ball becomes a dead ball as provided in the rules or when an official sounds their whistle (even though inadvertently) or otherwise signals the ball dead.

There is no where he thought the progress was stopped option. He had every right to make a call, but not make up where the ball was when he ended the play. So our play was live until the whistle made it dead. No Vulcan mind meld expressed or implied.
 
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