Substitution Rule

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I think NCAA rules committee will need to re-evaluate rule on substitution this off-season. Our fast-paced offense has taken advantage of the defense’s inability to make substitutions if offense doesn’t make substitutions. However, the problem is when offense does sub and ref stands over ball and allows defense to sub, while clock is winding down. Defenses are now slow walking onto field to allow play clock to wind down. This sometimes requires offense to take timeout. I know Tennessee has been guilty of this strategy on defense. Doesn’t seem fair to offense IMO.
 
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I think NCAA rules committee will need to re-evaluate rule on substitution this off-season. Our fast-paced offense has taken advantage of the defense’s inability to make substitutions if offense doesn’t make substitutions. However, the problem is when offense does sub and ref stands over ball and allows defense to sub, while clock is winding down. Defenses are now slow walking onto field to allow play clock to wind down. This sometimes requires offense to take timeout. I know Tennessee has been guilty of this strategy on defense. Doesn’t seem fair to offense IMO.
I agree that this seems like it is something they should look at. It does hurt an offense that is in a hurry.
 
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This is just the "backend" of the practice of stopping the game for fake injuries. Fix one problem and you fix them both.

or

We go back to when an injured player has to get off the field or cost his team a time out.
 
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Have it to where if the you have 10-15 seconds to get subs on and off the field then offense has the ability to snap the ball anytime after 30 seconds on the play clock or give penalty to defense for delay of game if the play clock goes down too far because of slow walking off the field. This new clock rules isn’t really helping the game in anyway.
 
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Easy fix. No subs under 10 seconds on the play clock, umpire clears the ball for play at 10 seconds left.

That wouldn't work; the offense can sub very late and the defense does not have enough time to sub.

Here is the current rule...

Terry McAulay, a former NFL referee and AAC coordinator of officials, for clarification on the rule.

“The rules specifically allow three seconds for the defense to react to the substitution and that three seconds begins when the offense has clearly declared who is coming in and who is going out.

"Once the defense starts their substitution, they get to fully complete it with the incoming player(s) getting in position and the exiting player(s) fully off the field."

That last sentence is the problem. IMO change it to:
“The rules should allow 10 seconds for the defense to react to the substitution and that 10 seconds begins when the offense has clearly declared who is coming in and who is going out." Full stop.
They might also devise a way to give everyone a 5-second warning or countdown to when the ball will be ready to play.
 
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That wouldn't work; the offense can sub very late and the defense does not have enough time to sub.

Here is the current rule...



That last sentence is the problem. IMO change it to:
“The rules should allow 10 seconds for the defense to react to the substitution and that 10 seconds begins when the offense has clearly declared who is coming in and who is going out." Full stop.
They might also devise a way to give everyone a 5-second warning or countdown to when the ball will be ready to play.

Ok, not substitutions under 15 seconds left on the play clock and the umpire readies the ball for play at 5 seconds no matter what?
 
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Yeah it needs to addressed. You telling me a guy can walk to the sidelines and the on coming can walk and basically run your clock out.
If the ref is gonna stand over the ball the play clock needs to stop until he moves out of the way
 
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I think NCAA rules committee will need to re-evaluate rule on substitution this off-season. Our fast-paced offense has taken advantage of the defense’s inability to make substitutions if offense doesn’t make substitutions. However, the problem is when offense does sub and ref stands over ball and allows defense to sub, while clock is winding down. Defenses are now slow walking onto field to allow play clock to wind down. This sometimes requires offense to take timeout. I know Tennessee has been guilty of this strategy on defense. Doesn’t seem fair to offense IMO.
Disagree, it did it when offense decided to sub late… fair is fair…
 
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If the safety of players was truly the issue, a hurt player would have to be out the entire drive, offense or defense. Trainer could then evaluate the player and keep them safe. Never gonna happen because it's actually about the best players, as fresh a they can be, compete, to make the best plays. The QB IS THE ONLY player they care about keeping safe. It's also the reason why they aren't calling holding on the OL, protecting the QBs!!!!
 
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The worst new rule is when we go out of bounds on our sideline, and immediately run back on to the field. They are letting the defense substitute. That is a joke.
Unfortunately you need that rule, because the offense could roll players real quick and the defense wouldn't know. I hate it for our offense, but I do understand that one.
 
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That wouldn't work; the offense can sub very late and the defense does not have enough time to sub.

Here is the current rule...



That last sentence is the problem. IMO change it to:
“The rules should allow 10 seconds for the defense to react to the substitution and that 10 seconds begins when the offense has clearly declared who is coming in and who is going out." Full stop.
They might also devise a way to give everyone a 5-second warning or countdown to when the ball will be ready to play.
Or make it 8 since it takes a couple of seconds for the ref to clear the area and the ball to snap.
 
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Unfortunately you need that rule, because the offense could roll players real quick and the defense wouldn't know. I hate it for our offense, but I do understand that one.
Maybe they could come up with a change that if the player doesn’t leave the “white” area they are still considered on the field.
 

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