Swine Flu... real or something to take our attention away??

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Oldvol75

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They are ramping up Swine Flu coverage on the news. I do realize that there is Swine Flu out there. But is this something that the present administration could use to put health care in without too many people paying attention?

I'm going ahead and say yes, IMO they will look for anything that they can use to place their policies into effect.

For those that don't not, Swinw, is the Bama way of spelling it!
 
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agreed. cause remember to get the bill on the table it was all ramped up like a global pandemic. we were all gonna turn into pig zombies, then it died down.

They said it was real real bad in mexico city. Well lets look at the enviornmental conditions in the city.
1)its the most densely poplulated city
2)very little air flow which leads to high polution
3)high polution leads to lower air quality
4)lower air quality leads to weaker immune systems
5)weaker immune systems lead to high vulnerability to diesease such as H1N1
 
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it is a problem, but that being said the only groups of people that it could be fatal to are mostly infants, the elderly, and/or people with health defects. everyone else that gets it should have nothing to worry about.

the media's job is to make us aware of the problem, and they've done that........but some people act, or have acted like we were dealing with the black plague or something, which couldn't be farther from the case.
 
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duckman398686 said:
it is a problem, but that being said the only groups of people that it could be fatal to are mostly infants, the elderly, and/or people with health defects. everyone else that gets it should have nothing to worry about.

the media's job is to make us aware of the problem, and they've done that........but some people act, or have acted like we were dealing with the black plague or something, which couldn't be farther from the case.
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i think a lot of this has to do with the fact of how big of an issue the media is making it.
 
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droski said:
my buddy who lived in mexico city during this tells me that 1 in 10,000 mexico city residents got the swine flu. that doesn't exactly sound liek somethign we should be freaking out about. particurally considering it is rarely fatal.
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but if you watched the news, they made it out to seem like mexico city was decimated
 
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It is just another way for the govt to say, "Without us you will be dead within 6 months". Don't worry. A third stimulus bill will keep the flu at bay!
 
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Lexvol said:
It is just another way for the govt to say, "Without us you will be dead within 6 months". Don't worry. A third stimulus bill will keep the flu at bay!
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Let's just hope and pray that we've totally nationalized HC by the time it arrives in force.
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well the idiots that support that system will be on it, and it will take so long for them to get the treatment that the virus will take them out, leaving only the ones that oppose it alive. We call for a referendum and get it repealed!!! BRILLIANT!!!
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Let's just hope and pray that we've totally nationalized HC by the time it arrives in force.
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Thinking of all the up-coding that would occur if that were to happen makes me smile...in an evil fun sort of way.
 
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It is as real as WMDs in Iraq, or the prospect of the health care system imploding by December if we don't fix it.
 
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In most cases, swine flu is no worse than regular seasonal flu, and is often less severe. UT had to send a mass e-mail to the entire student body because people who weren't even sick freaked out and ran to the Student Health Center in droves when it was reported that there were 10 possible cases of swine flu among UT students.
 
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The WHO anticipates that up to 2 billion people will get it, including up to 40% of the American public.

I haven't heard anyone from the WH say "and therefore we need to pass the healthcare bill."

What I have heard is people say "Watch. Because of the swine flu, the WH will say we need health care reform. Its a trick!"

But so far I am not seeing the trick be played.

Explanation? The claim that the WH would do this is knowiungly being made falsely, in order to create another misrepresentation to prevent discussion and debate of the actual issues.
 
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How many people will get the regular flu this year? How many will die from it? Which number is higher?

They are creating hysteria with their doomsday predictions. And when it doesn't come true they will triumphantly claim "We solved the swine flu crisis"
 
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While it could be used as an excuse, I don't think that concerns are being ramped up to hype a threat. School is getting ready to start again, and as far as I can tell, that is reason number one the concerns are growing of another round of swine flu. These concerns are exacerbated by the fact that the vaccine won't be ready until November.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The WHO anticipates that up to 2 billion people will get it, including up to 40% of the American public.

I haven't heard anyone from the WH say "and therefore we need to pass the healthcare bill."

What I have heard is people say "Watch. Because of the swine flu, the WH will say we need health care reform. Its a trick!"

But so far I am not seeing the trick be played.

Explanation? The claim that the WH would do this is knowiungly being made falsely, in order to create another misrepresentation to prevent discussion and debate of the actual issues.
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It's so unlike the WHO to be alarmist.
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if this swine flu ends up being like the swine flu of 1918, and that is a big if, it could be devastating.

most flu hits infants and elderly the hardest because their immune systems are the weakest. the swine flu of 1918 hit people around age 20 to 40 the hardest, because they have the strongest immune systems and death occurred from essentially an overreaction of the immune system to the virus.

1918 happened to have the "perfect storm" in place as troops from WWI spread the virus all over the world. i've read guesstimates of over 100 millions deaths world wide. hard to tell exactly as record keeping and communication back then was not real sophisticated.
 
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What strikes me is the difficulty in finding the processes/methods WHO used to come up with this estimation. I've looked for about 30 minutes now, and can't find anything. If anyone else finds something, could you post a link? I'm interested in reviewing their methods.

2 Billion is a pretty big ballpark to throw around. According to an AP article, they (WHO) have only documented 130,000 cases. That's roughly .002% of the world's population, and they're "predicting" that percentage will rise by 29.82?
 
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