Taliban Taking Over Afghanistan - Does anyone care?

[n_huffhines]

You realize that's not how percentages work, right?

Sure, bro. How many times are you going to reply to try to rope me back in? We're up to 3 attempts. You wasted too much of my time and you're obviously still burning. Just move on with your life.

 

[allvol123]

I have listened to several so-called military and logistics experts comment on the closing of Bagram, and what a huge mistake it was.

Yea, but do they understand the importance of diversity? Doubt it.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

What do you mean "arrived?" We're over there already.

I swear - it's like you guys watch CGTN all the time and just believe everything the Chinese say about themselves.

Ever look at a world map man?

In your alternate reality, pick whatever country you think is the 2nd most powerful military after us....OK?

Now...tell us how the Hell they are gonna keep us from taking over Cuba???

If that analogy doesnt pull your head out of your arse a bit, we may need heavy equipment like a calf puller I guess.

Logistics matter. Distance matters. Having a country of 1.6 Billion people and their military a stones throw away matters. To think we could stop China from taking Taiwan without nuclear weapons or a draft and full commitment to WW3 by our government and population is stupid and juvenile....and guess how many people are willing to usher in WW3 over a tiny island nation in Asia in 2021? Yep. Bout ZERO

 

[BP4Prez]

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[n_huffhines]

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The buck stops here!

"So you don't think this could have been handled -- this exit could have been handled better in any way, no mistakes?" Stephanopoulos asked Biden.

"No, I don't think it could have been handled in a way that, we're gonna go back in hindsight and look -- but the idea that somehow, there's a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, I don't know how that happens. I don't know how that happened," Biden replied.

And, Stephanopoulos asked if he factored in all of this chaos and Biden said "yes".

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I have listened to several so-called military and logistics experts comment on the closing of Bagram, and what a huge mistake it was.

On that subject, a lot has also been made about the US not providing air support to the Afghan army during this time. Now, after a few things I've been listening to today, it may be that the US were not able to provide air support because of a few things the Chinese and/or Russians may have been doing.

This is certainly looking like a situation that is falling comfortably into the hands of Xi and Putin right now.

Escobar: How Russia-China Are Stage-Managing The Taliban | ZeroHedge

Sharp US observers are remarking, half in jest, that the Taliban in only one sitting answered more real questions from US media than POTUS since January.

What this first press conference reveals is how the Taliban are fast absorbing essential P.R. and media lessons from Moscow and Beijing, emphasizing ethnic harmony, the role of women, the role of diplomacy, and deftly defusing in a single move all the hysteria raging across NATOstan.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Sounds like a lot of losses for saying no losses. And please describe to me the difference between Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam and Korea and how we were victorious. And by victorious, I mean how did we achieve our long term goals.

The goal in Korea, VN, and against the soviets in Afghanistan way back then was the entire objective of the Cold War that began immediately on VE day in Berlin:

stop the spread of communism. Period.

We did that. We won. The USSR folded, we saw the Berlin wall come down and them become capitalists...even russia and all the former USSR countries are cleaned of the stench of communism. Victory. Period.

we also, as others stated, have won nearly 100% of the battles we fought in every single engagement since WW2 ended whether in asia , sandbox, africa, central or south America. Name 1 that we didnt and anyone here could list dozens or more for each where we slaughtered the enemy with little to no casualties....even with complete BS rules of engagement most of the time due to bleeding heart liberals such as " do not fire unless fired upon"...

we are peerless at killing and destroying those who oppose us and our values.

We are TERRIBLE at the fools errand known as "nation building/rebuilding ".

the next politician who proposes rebuilding a country we attacked should be publicly tarred and feathered...as an example to the rest of those clowns.


QUOTE="Grand Vol, post: 20077393, member: 53096"]05 hits the nail on the head. The US Military has the ability (when properly allowed) to decimate any other military force on this entire planet. Even OIF was a textbook case of the ability of our military to kill people and break their toys.

We have a serious problem with trying the liberal idea of nation building in places that aren't ready for or really don't want Western style democracy. "Oh, we broke your crap and you're incapable of fixing it yourself?!?! We HAVE to rebuild it for you and do it the way WE want!"

Eff that. Germans and Japanese rebuilt their countries after WWII with us watching over their shoulder. Yeah, we gave loans and guaranteed lines of credit, but the people in those nations rebuilt them brick by brick.[/QUOTE]

^^^^ this. Well said

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I would think that anyone that accepted positions in the US puppet government would be warranted. And those soldiers trained by the US. How can you leave them out?

Are you out of your freaking MIND???

THE 350,000 strong afghan army we spent a trillion $ to train and arm with 1st world blackhawks, drones, humvees, rifles, heavy machine guns, RPGs, etx wtf...

Who NEVER FIRED A SHOT against the taliban?

Instead GIVING them all of our weapons...which they will hand over to the Chicoms to reverse engineer ASAP!!!

Let 350,000 of those traitorous azzwipes and their families come HERE???

ARE you trying to wreck this country,? You actually are a lawyer, unlike the other 3 or so here that claim to be...so you arent stupid regularly? What the Hell is wrong with you?

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I can't believe this even has to be supported. Should be common knowledge.

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I have no problem with that. The legal and 30 plus million ILLEGAL immigrants that for the most part ARE hardworkers are outbreeding Americans by a wide margin. There is no shortage of Hispanics nor any other foreigners in this country. There are people of all kinds in every city and state.

Whens the last time anyone here took a look around and said " we REALLY NEED MORE PEOPLE AROUND HERE!"

Is it when you sit in traffic for 30 mins to get home for work?

Maybe when you wait for hours at the DMV to renew your license?

When you have to wait in line behind multiple people in nice clothes and $100 shoes with full buggies they pay for with their EBT card from my taxes?

Maybe when you call your Dr. Office and the soonest you can get in is 3 weeks out?

I kNOW!!! Its when your mom is on the waiting list for an organ and they say 1 to 2 years out but you know she will never make it that long before dying....that must be it.

When is it?

When you go to National Parks like Yellowstone or good ole GSmokeyMNP ...and theres trash , condoms, beer cans etc thrown all over the ground at every parking lot, bathroom, hiking trail, etc....so that the only way you stand a chance at seeing nature unspoiled is to hike several miles off the beaten path east coast, or go to places like Montana, Utah, Dakotas etc and AVOID anywhere publicly listed...drive 10s of miles PAST then end of any paved roads, and hope you can find a primitive campsite or make your own on federal land. Overpopulation and trashy, destructive and littering tourists have destroyed anything that people can actually get to in a few hours. So youre gonna have to think REALLY hard and drive 100s or 1000s of miles to find anywhere amazing that isn't already trashed. Once folks find out about your favorite beach/lakeshore/place to hike, fish, camp or just relax....its trashed. Commercialized, over used, disrespected and eventually destroyed.

Is that what makes yall think " we need WAY more people around here." ???

Lets double legal immigrants. Hell, triple.

Lets give amnesty to the 3o million plus illegals here. THAT will stop em from sneaking in. Unchecked immigrants. Open borders. Globalization.

Yep...seems great so far. Need more folks arpund here like China and India...arses and elbows. Great idea. Smdh...

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Flag rank officers are nothing but politicians in uniform, all of them today survived the Obama purges so that should tell you all you need to know.

Why my Dad as" full bird" Col went reserve after 24 years active to get his last 2 years...only way to make General was work at the Pentagon full time and be a politician. He never wanted any part of that. He said he enjoyed work more as a Captain and Major than at any time after due to all the BS...

 

[Zues1]

Is Biden’s Foreign Policy Clumsiness Due to Incompetence or Arrogance?
Yes?

 

[Volaholic320]

I have no problem with that. The legal and 30 plus million ILLEGAL immigrants that for the most part ARE hardworkers are outbreeding Americans by a wide margin. There is no shortage of Hispanics nor any other foreigners in this country. There are people of all kinds in every city and state.

Whens the last time anyone here took a look around and said " we REALLY NEED MORE PEOPLE AROUND HERE!"

Is it when you sit in traffic for 30 mins to get home for work?

Maybe when you wait for hours at the DMV to renew your license?

When you have to wait in line behind multiple people in nice clothes and $100 shoes with full buggies they pay for with their EBT card from my taxes?

Maybe when you call your Dr. Office and the soonest you can get in is 3 weeks out?

I kNOW!!! Its when your mom is on the waiting list for an organ and they say 1 to 2 years out but you know she will never make it that long before dying....that must be it.

When is it?

When you go to National Parks like Yellowstone or good ole GSmokeyMNP ...and theres trash , condoms, beer cans etc thrown all over the ground at every parking lot, bathroom, hiking trail, etc....so that the only way you stand a chance at seeing nature unspoiled is to hike several miles off the beaten path east coast, or go to places like Montana, Utah, Dakotas etc and AVOID anywhere publicly listed...drive 10s of miles PAST then end of any paved roads, and hope you can find a primitive campsite or make your own on federal land. Overpopulation and trashy, destructive and littering tourists have destroyed anything that people can actually get to in a few hours. So youre gonna have to think REALLY hard and drive 100s or 1000s of miles to find anywhere amazing that isn't already trashed. Once folks find out about your favorite beach/lakeshore/place to hike, fish, camp or just relax....its trashed. Commercialized, over used, disrespected and eventually destroyed.

Is that what makes yall think " we need WAY more people around here." ???

Lets double legal immigrants. Hell, triple.

Lets give amnesty to the 3o million plus illegals here. THAT will stop em from sneaking in. Unchecked immigrants. Open borders. Globalization.

Yep...seems great so far. Need more folks arpund here like China and India...arses and elbows. Great idea. Smdh...

It's easier controlling less educated, poor people when you promise stuff. That's why dems need so many 3rd world immigrants. You dont see dems begging for white Europeans to migrate here.

 

[Volaholic320]

Are you out of your freaking MIND???

THE 350,000 strong afghan army we spent a trillion $ to train and arm with 1st world blackhawks, drones, humvees, rifles, heavy machine guns, RPGs, etx wtf...

Who NEVER FIRED A SHOT against the taliban?

Instead GIVING them all of our weapons...which they will hand over to the Chicoms to reverse engineer ASAP!!!

Let 350,000 of those traitorous azzwipes and their families come HERE???

ARE you trying to wreck this country,? You actually are a lawyer, unlike the other 3 or so here that claim to be...so you arent stupid regularly? What the Hell is wrong with you?

Many libs on here have no problem with that. The lib's mindset is that America is a racist white nation that that needs to be diversified.

 

[VolnJC]

 

[VolFaninFla]

Read The Charm School by Nelson Demille. Great book about POWS sent to the Soviet Union.

The Charm School is one if my favorite books. Others by DeMille are Cathedral, By the Rivers of Babylon, Gold Coast, The Gate House,etc.
I’m a big fan of his EXCEPT for Spencerville, which I read on a Flight to Japan.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

The Charm School is one if my favorite books. Others by DeMille are Cathedral, By the Rivers of Babylon, Gold Coast, The Gate House,etc.
I’m a big fan of his EXCEPT for Spencerville, which I read on a Flight to Japan.

Me too. Ive read it more than a few times. I don’t know how it hasn’t been turned into a movie yet. I looked it up a long time ago and it looks like somebody owns the rights to the screenplay and has it sitting in a drawer somewhere.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Hey, we care about collateral damage again. Cool.

Trump pledged to stop 'endless wars' but his airstrikes in Afghanistan increased civilian deaths by 330% since 2016

Still not as dangerous as Chicago….
The US, its allies, and the Afghan government killed an average of 582 civilians per year from 2007 to 2016.

 

[BreatheUT]

This particular think tank may have it right this time; but, overall, they all rank right up there with the media and other political wannabes when it comes to facts and objectivity.

Good looking out.

 

[Wireless1]

"We've all seen the pictures. We've seen those hundreds of people packed in a C-17. We've seen Afghans falling --"
"That was four days ago, five days ago!" Biden interjected.

2 or 3 days ago Joe.

We now know how many naps Joe takes per day.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Sure, bro. How many times are you going to reply to try to rope me back in? We're up to 3 attempts. You wasted too much of my time and you're obviously still burning. Just move on with your life.

Maybe go watch a YouTube video on basic math and get back to me. You're math skills are par with the rest of your game. You're probably one if thise that thinks math is racist.

 

[VolFaninFla]

Me too. Ive read it more than a few times. I don’t know how it hasn’t been turned into a movie yet. I looked it up a long time ago and it looks like somebody owns the rights to the screenplay and has it sitting in a drawer somewhere.

I met Nelson DeMille at a book signing (Spencerville) in Centerville, OH.
I told him that The Gold Coast was my all time favorite book and that I thought it would make a great movie. Also mentioned that I could envision William Hurt playing the role of John Sutter. He said no because he absolutely hated William Hurt

 

[Jxn Vol]

I noticed that one of the usual trolls hasn’t been on this thread for a while. He was quick to jump to Joe’s defense early on. His absence must mean Joe really crapped the bed this time.

 

[Wireless1]

Ever look at a world map man?

In your alternate reality, pick whatever country you think is the 2nd most powerful military after us....OK?

Now...tell us how the Hell they are gonna keep us from taking over Cuba???

If that analogy doesnt pull your head out of your arse a bit, we may need heavy equipment like a calf puller I guess.

Logistics matter. Distance matters. Having a country of 1.6 Billion people and their military a stones throw away matters. To think we could stop China from taking Taiwan without nuclear weapons or a draft and full commitment to WW3 by our government and population is stupid and juvenile....and guess how many people are willing to usher in WW3 over a tiny island nation in Asia in 2021? Yep. Bout ZERO

Of course that's why Trump kept them in check. They never knew if he would look at the numbers and decide that 10 Nukes would take out 136M of them and only 36M of us, or if he would prohibit commerce with China, or freeze their assets, or even jail their citizens that were here. He was as ruthless as they are and they were afraid to call his bluff. Like him or not, they were very wary of him. Joe, they know they have him in their back pockets, but they also saw the nothing that happened 1/6 and what wasn't done (They'd have leveled that crowd) so there is still a fear factor from the American people.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I met Nelson DeMille at a book signing (Spencerville) in Centerville, OH.
I told him that The Gold Coast was my all time favorite book and that I thought it would make a great movie. Also mentioned that I could envision William Hurt playing the role of John Sutter. He said no because he absolutely hated William Hurt

That’s awesome . I need to read that.