Teams worried about Patterson

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Stupid reverse? He got a lot of yards from it. And we didn't go down field more because teams caught onto the 7 plays we were running. And we probably ran them in the same sequence.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Stupid reverse? He got a lot of yards from it. And we didn't go down field more because teams caught onto the 7 plays we were running. And we probably ran them in the same sequence.
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It worked once that I can remember. In the first game against NC State. Most of the other times it was picked up.
 
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VolFan_N_NC said:
Georgia game too
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Oh yeah I forgot about that one. My fault. Still, imagine how much more of an impact he could have made if we could have done more with him than those 7 plays. Obviously he made a huge impact but I'm excited to see what he can do in the future in the NFL if he can learn the offensive system.
 
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:question:
You may have to keep it simple for him, but this is football. It's not building a super glider or anything."
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"super glider"? Did he mean supercollider? I hope not if he was questioning someone else's smarts.

While I agree, and really don't think there's that many that disagree, that CP is "raw" in the finer points of the game I question the author's trying too hard with using CP in other ways besides running routes. A pass requires a number of things to go right for you while a more direct approach can pretty much assure the ball got into the hands of the most dangerous guy on the team. Seriously, are we really going to question the direct snaps/end arounds and their effectiveness? Hells bells he averaged over 12 YPC.
 
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hndog609 said:
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"super glider"? Did he mean supercollider? I hope not if he was questioning someone else's smarts.

While I agree, and really don't think there's that many that disagree, that CP is "raw" in the finer points of the game I question the author's trying too hard with using CP in other ways besides running routes. A pass requires a number of things to go right for you while a more direct approach can pretty much assure the ball got into the hands of the most dangerous guy on the team. Seriously, are we really going to question the direct snaps/end arounds and their effectiveness? Hells bells he averaged over 12 YPC.
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I stand corrected on the 12 ypc. Still, imagine what more we could have done with him.
 
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If I was to draft a receiver, I would draft him first. Best playmaker I have seen at Tennessee and that is saying a lot considering the playmakers Tennessee has had over the years. He is going to make someone look very smart when they draft him.
 
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He is a terrible route runner but then so was Randy Moss. He lacks Randy height though.

imo he will be a dez bryant type player. really good but not good enough to be in the top tier all time.
 
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I've seen Dez Bryant be pretty dominant at times. If he gets his head on straight he could be top tier all time, as I believe CP could.
 
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tri_vol said:
He is a terrible route runner but then so was Randy Moss. He lacks Randy height though.

imo he will be a dez bryant type player. really good but not good enough to be in the top tier all time.
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Stupid argument. You can't teach what he does with a ball. You act as if running routes is some complex scheme like zone blocking or something. It's the easiest position to learn on the field apart from special teams.

And your last comment is completely and utterly stupid. Dez Bryant was 6th in the league in REC yrds last year but yet he was thrown to 100 times less than Megatron and fewer than anyone else in the top 20. Not to mention he was second in TD's. I hate the cowboys but to say Bryant isn't Top 5 in the league right NOW, is dumb and the kid has been improving steadily over the last 3 seasons. So I agree, he will be a Dez Bryant type player, except faster and better at the wiggle.
 
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He might be the next Devin Hester at PR and Struggles at WR or perhaps the next Tim Brown that can do both very well.
 
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LaagerVol said:
I've seen Dez Bryant be pretty dominant at times. If he gets his head on straight he could be top tier all time, as I believe CP could.
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I agree but the track record for Bryant's maturity wasn't that great coming out of college. Even now he has improved in the NFL but the question still remains can he be dominant every week for the next 8-10 years. I don't think he can. I think he can be a really really good player but not a championship level guy. Think CP is in the same mold. jmo.
 
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LibertyVol said:
If I was to draft a receiver, I would draft him first. Best playmaker I have seen at Tennessee and that is saying a lot considering the playmakers Tennessee has had over the years. He is going to make someone look very smart when they draft him.
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The biggest problem was UT simplified it as much as they could for him and he still struggled with the 3-4 plays he knew by late in the season with teams picking up on it. He is such a likeable guy and really want him to do well and be one of the top WR's in the NFL but he isnt going to be able to get away with a couple pass plays and continuous bad route running. Really hope he gets drafted by a team that will be patient with him and take baby steps but being a most likely 1st Rounder I dont think he is gonna be allowed that luxory. I am pulling for him though and would love Denver to get him and he could be eased into it and learn behind Decker and Thomas on the outside and Welker in the slot. But damn I couldnt imagine Peyton's patience lasting long.
 
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volsfansince4387 said:
Stupid argument. You can't teach what he does with a ball. You act as if running routes is some complex scheme like zone blocking or something. It's the easiest position to learn on the field apart from special teams.

And your last comment is completely and utterly stupid. Dez Bryant was 6th in the league in REC yrds last year but yet he was thrown to 100 times less than Megatron and fewer than anyone else in the top 20. Not to mention he was second in TD's. I hate the cowboys but to say Bryant isn't Top 5 in the league right NOW, is dumb and the kid has been improving steadily over the last 3 seasons. So I agree, he will be a Dez Bryant type player, except faster and better at the wiggle.
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Its not near as easy in the NFL like it is in college. Everyone up there can run, the db's are just as fast and very physical which makes it much harder to get seperation. Not to mention timing and route running. is so much more essential in than in college. He is one of my favorite Vols from the past few yrs but honestly the question marks are concerning if I am a GM and would really have to think hard about him being worth 1st round money. If he does struggle all yr and cant get it figured out that will be alot of money just for a guy returning kicks. Honestly think Hunter will have a much better rookie yr with him being a much better polished route runner and his leaping ability. Really pulling for them to rep the Volnation and light up NFL defenses.
 
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LibertyVol said:
If I was to draft a receiver, I would draft him first. Best playmaker I have seen at Tennessee and that is saying a lot considering the playmakers Tennessee has had over the years. He is going to make someone look very smart when they draft him.
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If I needed a receiver in this draft I'd draft other positions of need and pick up Da'Rick in the 3rd. There's not really a "can't miss" receiver in this years class.
 
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volsfansince4387 said:
Stupid argument. You can't teach what he does with a ball. You act as if running routes is some complex scheme like zone blocking or something. It's the easiest position to learn on the field apart from special teams.

And your last comment is completely and utterly stupid. Dez Bryant was 6th in the league in REC yrds last year but yet he was thrown to 100 times less than Megatron and fewer than anyone else in the top 20. Not to mention he was second in TD's. I hate the cowboys but to say Bryant isn't Top 5 in the league right NOW, is dumb and the kid has been improving steadily over the last 3 seasons. So I agree, he will be a Dez Bryant type player, except faster and better at the wiggle.
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Running routes is not complex but does require precision. It requires a mind set that CP hasn't displayed on the field or apparently in his interviews.

That's why guys like Welker & Bouldin are so good. Thats why guys like Rice & Carter were so effective even later in their careers even after they lost a step. Moss wasn't. That's why he was ran nothing but go routes at the end of of his career.

As for Dez Bryant, I never said he wasn't talented. He is. A talented guy though can rack up yds against inferior teams. Consider that he played 6 games against top 10 pass defenses and had less than 70 yds/game with a low of 17 yds against the Seahawks. Compared to 8 games with 107 yd average against the 10 worst pass defenses with a high of 224 yds against the Saints. It takes more than raw talent to be champion. The Cowboys will never will anything substantial if Dez is their primary receiver.

I'm a cowboy fan and Dez is top 10 but not top 5. Id take these guys over him.

Calvin Johnson
Wes Welker
Andre Johnson
Roddy White
Julio Jones
Larry Fitzgerald
Anquan Boldin
Brandon Marshall
Victor Cruz
 
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