Tennessee’s hiring Follies

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Ever notice all the former hires Tennessee could barely find a job after getting fired. Kiffin the only one I recall and he left, they didn’t release him. People worried about payouts they don’t care it’s not their money nothing comes out if their accounts. It’s just their job to them.
 
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utfantilidie said:
Ever notice all the former hires Tennessee could barely find a job after getting fired. Kiffin the only one I recall and he left, they didn’t release him. People worried about payouts they don’t care it’s not their money nothing comes out if their accounts. It’s just their job to them.
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We have had a few DC and OC that picked up jobs fast.
 
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utfantilidie said:
Ever notice all the former hires Tennessee could barely find a job after getting fired. Kiffin the only one I recall and he left, they didn’t release him. People worried about payouts they don’t care it’s not their money nothing comes out if their accounts. It’s just their job to them.
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It's actually the ones we didn't want or the ones we ran off in coordinator roles that are doing solid now.

Helton
Clawson
Doeren
Dykes

All those come to mind. I think we might look back in 3-5 years and regret not making Chadwell our hire though. I'm encouraged by Heupel, but I think Chadwell has a higher ceiling.
 
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b_gann said:
It's actually the ones we didn't want or the ones we ran off in coordinator roles that are doing solid now.

Helton
Clawson
Doeren
Dykes

All those come to mind. I think we might look back in 3-5 years and regret not making Chadwell our hire though. I'm encouraged by Heupel, but I think Chadwell has a higher ceiling.
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I think Doeren is doing more with less right now, it is hard to recruit that area.
 
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Milehigh_Vol said:
I think Doeren is doing more with less right now, it is hard to recruit that area.
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Dave Clawson at Wake Forrest would has a chance at a ACC championship right now...imo he doing the most without having a top 30 recruiting class in a while!
 
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Let's take a look at the history on this (only included are coaches that were head coaches and that were hired as HC immediately after their tenure at Tennessee)
1. Hubert Fisher- Left UT in 1903 and became HC for Nashville University in 1904

2. Zora G. Clevenger- Left UT in 1915 and became HC for Kansas State in 1916

3. John Barnhill- Left UT in 1945 and became HC for Arkansas in 1946

4. Doug Dickey- Left UT in 1969 and became HC for Florida in 1970

5. Johnny Majors- Left UT in 1992 and became HC for Pitt in 1993

6. Lane Kiffin- Left UT in 2009 and became HC for USC in 2010

Since the very first head coach in 1899, only six HC's have been immediately hired as HC's after their departure
 
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Dare I say Sunseri actually went down to FSU as D-line coach (I think) and won a national title.

Important: He was hot garbage here as a DC. Glad we got rid of him.
 
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NO SIR EEE said:
Let's take a look at the history on this (only included are coaches that were head coaches and that were hired as HC immediately after their tenure at Tennessee)
1. Hubert Fisher- Left UT in 1903 and became HC for Nashville University in 1904

2. Zora G. Clevenger- Left UT in 1915 and became HC for Kansas State in 1916

3. John Barnhill- Left UT in 1945 and became HC for Arkansas in 1946

4. Doug Dickey- Left UT in 1969 and became HC for Florida in 1970

5. Johnny Majors- Left UT in 1992 and became HC for Pitt in 1993

6. Lane Kiffin- Left UT in 2009 and became HC for USC in 2010

Since the very first head coach in 1899, only six HC's have been immediately hired as HC's after their departure
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Very few HC’s in college get fired and move right into a new HC gig. Recents have been Sumlin from aTm to Arizona (already fired) and Addazio fromBC toCSU and he is already on hot seat. They have to move to Alabama analyst or be a coordinator somewhere and try to get another HC job.
 
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franklinboy said:
Dave Clawson at Wake Forrest would has a chance at a ACC championship right now...imo he doing the most without having a top 30 recruiting class in a while!
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Thats true, but it could be a one hit wonder. I hope not though, I got one of grads from there.
 
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supersmo18 said:
Dare I say Sunseri actually went down to FSU as D-line coach (I think) and won a national title.

Important: He was hot garbage here as a DC. Glad we got rid of him.
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I think Dooley was WR coach at Dallas right after being fired. Several of our hires got jobs immediately afterwards, some may have taken a step down but most were in demand.

Then there’s Butch….
 
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NO SIR EEE said:
Let's take a look at the history on this (only included are coaches that were head coaches and that were hired as HC immediately after their tenure at Tennessee)
1. Hubert Fisher- Left UT in 1903 and became HC for Nashville University in 1904

2. Zora G. Clevenger- Left UT in 1915 and became HC for Kansas State in 1916

3. John Barnhill- Left UT in 1945 and became HC for Arkansas in 1946

4. Doug Dickey- Left UT in 1969 and became HC for Florida in 1970

5. Johnny Majors- Left UT in 1992 and became HC for Pitt in 1993

6. Lane Kiffin- Left UT in 2009 and became HC for USC in 2010

Since the very first head coach in 1899, only six HC's have been immediately hired as HC's after their departure
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That isn't likely unusual. Guys fired at the power programs rarely find a landing spot immediately
 
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utfantilidie said:
Ever notice all the former hires Tennessee could barely find a job after getting fired. Kiffin the only one I recall and he left, they didn’t release him. People worried about payouts they don’t care it’s not their money nothing comes out if their accounts. It’s just their job to them.
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I mean, the university continues to pay them after they leave, so it's not like they have to find another job.
 
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DaddyChad said:
I think Dooley was WR coach at Dallas right after being fired. Several of our hires got jobs immediately afterwards, some may have taken a step down but most were in demand.

Then there’s Butch….
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Speaking of Butch, just saw where his Arkansas State Team # Whatever has lost six in a row. But, I’m sure his boys are over there:

fighting for blades of grass
getting 1% better each day
giving 63 effort (strain 3 times in 6 seconds)
taking mental and leadership reps
using great eye discipline
playing complimentary football
snapping and clearing

Hopefully, he hasn’t told the Jonesboro, AR press corps the story of his 3 year study with Marv Lewis-Cincy Bengals on when to freeze a FG Kicker, or referred to his mysterious PAT chart (when to go for 2 points after TD). And I hope he hasn’t had to report any player injuries from falling on a helmet.
 
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VolsSince78 said:
Speaking of Butch, just saw where his Arkansas State Team # Whatever has lost six in a row. But, I’m sure his boys are over there:

fighting for blades of grass
getting 1% better each day
giving 63 effort (strain 3 times in 6 seconds)
taking mental and leadership reps
using great eye discipline
playing complimentary football
snapping and clearing

Hopefully, he hasn’t told the Jonesboro, AR press corps the story of his 3 year study with Marv Lewis-Cincy Bengals on when to freeze a FG Kicker, or referred to his mysterious PAT chart (when to go for 2 points after TD). And I hope he hasn’t had to report any player injuries from falling on a helmet.
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I’ve listened to a few of Butch’s Arky St press conferences, and he still says a whole lot but yet, so little.
GBO!!
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
I’ve listened to a few of Butch’s Arky St press conferences, and he still says a whole lot but yet, so little.
GBO!!
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A poster from Cincinnati came on here and warned us/summed it up perfectly when he posted “Butch isn’t a head coach but he plays one on TV”. Nothing other than that really needs to be said about him.
 
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b_gann said:
Speaking along those lines. We should've probably hired Kyle Whittingham years ago or Dana Holgorsen.
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We never ever even considered Holgorsen thank god and we tried to hire Whittingham but he turned us down.
 
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Like him or not The Chief was gainfully employed for another 20 years as a desired DC after our 1998 NC run.
 
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DaddyChad said:
I think Dooley was WR coach at Dallas right after being fired. Several of our hires got jobs immediately afterwards, some may have taken a step down but most were in demand.

Then there’s Butch….
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He was at Dallas. I remember watching a MNF game between the Titans and Cowboys, and Dez Bryant missed a pass from Romo, either because of a poor pass or a bad route run, but either way he didn’t catch it. It caused a 4th down and when Bryant got to the sideline, Dooley marched over to DB (while he was walking towards the bench with his back to Dooley, mind you) and then DB abruptly turned around and started giving Dooley the business and yelling and pointing back in his face down at him. 😂 I laughed my ass off. It’s just comical to me thinking that Dooley thought he could tell Dez Bryant of all people how to play football. That backfired on him quickly, much to my delight. 😆
 
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Kind of like in the Johnny Majors thread, Tennessee hasn't really had that stellar coach on the level of a Bear Bryant, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, etc. in its program history with the exception of Neyland.

The biggest miss in UT's history was Spurrier. If Spurrier had been a Vol, the entire trajectory of the program would have been different. He would have came back and coached us in the 1990s. With no Florida in the way, we compete and probably win multiple titles and don't have the collapse in the 2000s.
 
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Y'all are forgetting Shi#ano. He was our HC for 22.5 hours and left us to become HC at the University of New Jersey (part II)
 
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