Tennessee a very good coaching job, Spurrier

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“It’s an unfortunate part of our business,” Spurrier said of Dooley’s firing. “We all understand it. I like Derek Dooley. I think he’s a good person. I think he’s a pretty good coach. It just didn’t work out. I don’t know how else you can say it. They were in I don’t know how many ballgames this year that somehow or another, they found a way to lose them, most of them.”
The Volunteers lost by seven points to Georgia, by three to USC and by three in overtime to Missouri.
Because Tennessee lacks elite high school talent, the Volunteers must recruit out-of-state players, and doing that consistently can be tough.
“It can happen to any program,” Spurrier said of Tennessee’s recent slip. “The sun doesn’t always shine on the same dog all the time, as we know. Tennessee, I think, is a very good coaching job, certainly with a huge stadium and tradition and everything they’ve got there.
“But Tennessee’s got to recruit pretty much all over the nation. They’ve got to get players to leave their home state areas and come to Tennessee. And it seems like in the last, oh, 10 years, 20 years, almost all the home states are getting their programs up to where the kids will not leave their state. I think that’s a little bit different now than it was several years ago. (Coaching Tennessee) is maybe not as easy of a job as it was 10, 20 years ago
 
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In a nutshell. The UT job isn't easy. To all that think because it's the University of Tennessee that any and all coaches will line up to take the job, you're wrong.
 
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Spurrier speaks the truth. Success on the field goes hand-in-hand with pulling recruits out-of-state. We used to cherry-pick athletes from surrounding states when we were winning. It's a catch-22, win and the recruits will come. But you can't win without the recruits. A good coach will get you over the hump. That said, I wish we'd hired Spurrier in '05 when he got canned from the Redskins, and forced Fulmer to retire after that season's losing record.... would've won an SECC by now.
 
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Volle said:
Spurrier speaks the truth. Success on the field goes hand-in-hand with pulling recruits out-of-state. We used to cherry-pick athletes from surrounding states when we were winning. It's a catch-22, win and the recruits will come. But you can't win without the recruits. A good coach will get you over the hump. That said, I wish we'd hired Spurrier in '05 when he got canned from the Redskins, and forced Fulmer to retire after that season's losing record.... would've won an SECC by now.
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I though Spurrier coached USCe in 05 and beat us in Neyland in the game where we retired peyton's number in his first year. We would have had to fire fulmer in 04 after he was coming off the sec title game appearance.
 
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"Because Tennessee lacks elite high school talent"

It is getting better however. Soon, that will not be an excuse.
 
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Spurrier is the one that got away, both as a player and as a coach. As good as Phil was in the 90s, can you imagine Spurrier at UT with no threat at UF? We would have won like 5 NCs that decade.
 
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qb19 said:
"Because Tennessee lacks elite high school talent"

It is getting better however. Soon, that will not be an excuse.
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Outside of QB's and RB's, I think most positions can be filled with quality players from the state of TN. It can be done.
 
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So what's it gonna take to get elite prep talent? I know most cities in TN now have these special high school football shows through the week to air highlights of all the good players. Is that not enough? We have a great QB camp with the Mannings. What gives?
 
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Tennessee football is getting better. Tennessee's population is in the top 20 in the nation... when the high school football catches up we won't have to rely quite as much on out of state recruiting.
 
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Boca Vol said:
In a nutshell. The UT job isn't easy. To all that think because it's the University of Tennessee that any and all coaches will line up to take the job, you're wrong.
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In a nutshell Bocage is afraid of a challenge, any top teir coach, or player for that matter, will come to Tenn because of the chance to compete against the best not despite of it.
 
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utfantilidie said:
“It’s an unfortunate part of our business,” Spurrier said of Dooley’s firing. “We all understand it. I like Derek Dooley. I think he’s a good person. I think he’s a pretty good coach. It just didn’t work out. I don’t know how else you can say it. They were in I don’t know how many ballgames this year that somehow or another, they found a way to lose them, most of them.”
The Volunteers lost by seven points to Georgia, by three to USC and by three in overtime to Missouri.
Because Tennessee lacks elite high school talent, the Volunteers must recruit out-of-state players, and doing that consistently can be tough.
“It can happen to any program,” Spurrier said of Tennessee’s recent slip. “The sun doesn’t always shine on the same dog all the time, as we know. Tennessee, I think, is a very good coaching job, certainly with a huge stadium and tradition and everything they’ve got there.
“But Tennessee’s got to recruit pretty much all over the nation. They’ve got to get players to leave their home state areas and come to Tennessee. And it seems like in the last, oh, 10 years, 20 years, almost all the home states are getting their programs up to where the kids will not leave their state. I think that’s a little bit different now than it was several years ago. (Coaching Tennessee) is maybe not as easy of a job as it was 10, 20 years ago
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Sounds about right
 
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jortfreeTN said:
In a nutshell Bocage is afraid of a challenge, any top teir coach, or player for that matter, will come to Tenn because of the chance to compete against the best not despite of it.
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You really believe this? Does UT even get the top player in the state any more? It seemed they always did when I was growing up in East Tennessee in the '80s. I know recently the top players have gone to Bama, USC, or where ever.

Regarding coaches, if they're already a good coach at a good school, in a good conference, why leave? If it is a situation like Mullen from Miss St. or Franklin at Vandy, I see your point. More $$$$ and resources at UT.
 
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utfantilidie said:
“It’s an unfortunate part of our business,” Spurrier said of Dooley’s firing. “We all understand it. I like Derek Dooley. I think he’s a good person. I think he’s a pretty good coach. It just didn’t work out. I don’t know how else you can say it. They were in I don’t know how many ballgames this year that somehow or another, they found a way to lose them, most of them.”
The Volunteers lost by seven points to Georgia, by three to USC and by three in overtime to Missouri.
Because Tennessee lacks elite high school talent, the Volunteers must recruit out-of-state players, and doing that consistently can be tough.
“It can happen to any program,” Spurrier said of Tennessee’s recent slip. “The sun doesn’t always shine on the same dog all the time, as we know. Tennessee, I think, is a very good coaching job, certainly with a huge stadium and tradition and everything they’ve got there.
“But Tennessee’s got to recruit pretty much all over the nation. They’ve got to get players to leave their home state areas and come to Tennessee. And it seems like in the last, oh, 10 years, 20 years, almost all the home states are getting their programs up to where the kids will not leave their state. I think that’s a little bit different now than it was several years ago. (Coaching Tennessee) is maybe not as easy of a job as it was 10, 20 years ago
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:lolabove: Spurrior :lolabove: he brakes me up :dance2: sun don't always shine on the same dog. :eek:lol: here' one even a blind hog finds an acorn occasionally. :eek:lol: Spurrior is still mad because UT did not recruit him years ago
 
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Boca Vol said:
In a nutshell. The UT job isn't easy. To all that think because it's the University of Tennessee that any and all coaches will line up to take the job, you're wrong.
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Funny that guys like Stoops, Fisher, & Mora Jr. are showing interest by your logic. Deeming something 'right or wrong' because it is your opinion is the only thing I see that is decisively wrong.
 
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There is talent in every state. Some states have more than others. Whoever is the next head coach at Tennessee needs to do a great job of establishing good relationships with the high schools in the state. Most high school coaches in Tennessee feel that Tennessee is not going to recruit in state high schools very hard, so when a coach does have a really talented player, the players are encouraged to look elsewhere. That has to change.
 
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Spurrior is still mad because UT did not recruit him years ago

We still ran the single wing and Spurrier was a passer. Not a fit, I believe we dropped single wing year later.

Heard Tennessee best CB is visiting USC-ND game today

Local radio x-coach said 'SEC slaps you naked, then hides your clothes' - he thinks we go for C STRONG
 
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ncvol17 said:
Spurrior is still mad because UT did not recruit him years ago

We still ran the single wing and Spurrier was a passer. Not a fit, I believe we dropped single wing year later.

Heard Tennessee best CB is visiting USC-ND game today

Local radio x-coach said 'SEC slaps you naked, then hides your clothes' - he thinks we go for C STRONG
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Lol.
 
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Volle said:
Spurrier speaks the truth. Success on the field goes hand-in-hand with pulling recruits out-of-state. We used to cherry-pick athletes from surrounding states when we were winning. It's a catch-22, win and the recruits will come. But you can't win without the recruits. A good coach will get you over the hump. That said, I wish we'd hired Spurrier in '05 when he got canned from the Redskins, and forced Fulmer to retire after that season's losing record.... would've won an SECC by now.
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I agree with most of what you say except that we never "cherry-picked" anyone's recruits. The good players we got to come here and play at some skill positions on offense and defense in the mid to late 90s came because of one name: PEYTON MANNING! Four years after Peyton was gone--our last real chance at a NC was in 2001--we have not been good, nor gotten the elite recruits ahead of other teams since that time.

Yeah, you can say that we played in the SEC championship game twice since then (2001), but we were way outmatched in those two games (2004 & 2007?).

:salute:
 
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