Tennessee vs. Cal schedule

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milohimself

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If you had a game by game schedule comparison... Who would be each team's toughest game in order (not counting eachother) and who would beat who? Count the whole season.

i.e. USC vs. Florida, Arizona vs. Vanderbilt, etc.
 
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Milo why such a large asignment? Allow me to give a quick assessment.

UT plays the more physically demanding schedule. This is coming from a poster that thinks the SEC may be a bit down this year judging by recent offensive performances.

If you ask me, Cal was surprised by the physical nature of UT football, and they never got used to it. Now back to the point about the SEC being down.

UT catches a break this year, dealing with new QBs at Bama, UGA, SC and Arkansas. Not to mention the fact that Leak is not a natural fit in the Florida offense. What I am trying to say is this. The UT defense has gotten a break this year because offense is poorer than usual in the SEC with all the new talent. Cal simply does not have that luxury (generally speaking).

All that being said, the physical nature of the SEC makes this a particularly hard year on a thin UT team. UT would definately benefit by playing Cal's schedule. They would most likely be less banged up.
 
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Just a point of curiosity for me.

And, I think this is one of the SEC's better years. IMO Florida is the only team with any real shot of beating Ohio State, but the SEC is very tough this year.
 
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I think the SEC is the toughest conference this year.

Milo, I will be honest in saying I don't know how to rank the Pac 10 teams, becasue I don't know who is the best after USC and Oregon. If you would rank the Pac 10 side I would be happy to do the SEC side and then I will say who I think will win.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I think the SEC is the toughest conference this year.

Milo, I will be honest in saying I don't know how to rank the Pac 10 teams, becasue I don't know who is the best after USC and Oregon. If you would rank the Pac 10 side I would be happy to do the SEC side and then I will say who I think will win.
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My Pac-10 power rankings...

Cal
USC
Washington State
Oregon State
Oregon
Arizona State
Washington
UCLA
Arizona
Stanford
 
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SEC overall toughest league.Big 10 has top two teams (right now anyways).
 
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milohimself said:
My Pac-10 power rankings...

Cal
USC
Washington State
Oregon State
Oregon
Arizona State
Washington
UCLA
Arizona
Stanford
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Sorry I messed up. Could you tweak a little big more and put in the non conf. games. (Not including tenn.)
 
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USC
Washington State
Oregon State
Oregon
Arizona State
Washington
UCLA
Arizona
Minnesota
Stanford
Portland State
 
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#10
1. Florida def. USC
2. LSU def. Oregon
3. Arky w/Mcfadden def. Wash. St.
4. Oregon St. def. UGA
5. Bama def. UCLA
6. AZ St def. S.Carolina
7. Washington def. Kentucky
8. Vandy vs. Minnesota (coin toss)
9. Arizona def. Marshall
10. Air Force def. Stanford
11. Memphis def. Portland St.
 
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I came up with a few more coin flips...

USC = Florida
Washington State < LSU
Oregon State = Arkansas
Oregon = Alabama
Arizona State < South Carolina
Washington < Georgia
UCLA > Kentucky
Arizona > Vanderbilt
Minnesota > Air Force
Stanford < Marshall
Portland State > Memphis
 
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#12
Florida over USC
LSU over Washington State
Arkansas over Oregon State
South Carolina over Oregon
Alabama over Arizona State
Georgia over Washington
UCLA over Vandy
Arizona over Kentucky
Minnesota over Marshall
Air Force over Stanford
Memphis over Portland State
 
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#13
Here is how the BCS computers rank each schedule (average rank):

California vs Tennessee
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6 Southern Cal vs 4 Florida
19 Oregon vs 14 Arkansas
17 Washington State vs 22 LSU
25 Oregon State vs 33 Georgia
40 Arizona State vs 39 Alabama
45 UCLA vs 42 South Carolina
46 Washington vs 47 Kentucky
56 Minnesota vs 66 Vanderbilt
68 Arizona vs 71 Air Force
104 Stanford vs 96 Marshall
119+ Portland State vs 113 Memphis

Keep in mind that some computers do not count I-AA games at all. None of them use margin of victory. So where the Memphis game hurts Tennessee's computer rank, in some computers, the Portland State game does not even exist when calculating Cal's rank.
 
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milohimself said:
My Pac-10 power rankings...

Cal
USC
Washington State
Oregon State
Oregon
Arizona State
Washington
UCLA
Arizona
Stanford
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This is in agreement with all of the BCS computer polls....except that it is a close race between Washington and UCLA. The computer polls do a decent job of helping one compare crappy teams (and not good but not crappy teams sometimes as well)
 
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Here is where Jerry Palm took Colley's computer formula and added the I-AA games. It changes the rankings for some teams

Under that formula (Colley), Michigan and Ohio St are still 1-2, but have significantly lower ratings. Cal drops from third to sixth, while Florida moves up to third and USC jumps Notre Dame to fifth. Rutgers drops past Louisville, Auburn and Tennessee to 10th. Rutgers and Cal are the only teams in Colley's top 10 who have played I-AA opponents so far.
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
1. Florida def. USC
2. LSU def. Oregon
3. Arky w/Mcfadden def. Wash. St.
4. Oregon St. def. UGA
5. Bama def. UCLA
6. AZ St def. S.Carolina
7. Washington def. Kentucky
8. Vandy vs. Minnesota (coin toss)
9. Arizona def. Marshall
10. Air Force def. Stanford
11. Memphis def. Portland St.
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There is no way in hell Arizona State would even come close to beating South Carolina, and that's coming from a guy that lives in Phoenix, Arizona. Arizona State is a flat out joke this year. Here is Arizona State's schedule this season. It's real impressive. Their most impressive win is against either Stanford or Washington, both of which suck.

N Arizona - W 35-14
Nevada - W 52-21
at Colorado - W 21-3
at #21 California - L 49-21
#14 Oregon - L 48-13
at #3 USC - L 28-21
Stanford - W 38-3
at Washington - W 26-23

In their opening game against Northern Arizona, the two teams were tied at 14-14 going into the fourth quarter.
 
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milohimself said:
I came up with a few more coin flips...

USC = Florida
Washington State < LSU
Oregon State = Arkansas
Oregon = Alabama
Arizona State < South Carolina
Washington < Georgia
UCLA > Kentucky
Arizona > Vanderbilt
Minnesota > Air Force
Stanford < Marshall
Portland State > Memphis
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I think Vanderbilt would throttle Arizona, and I'm not so sure about your equal ranking for Arkansas and Oregon State either. I wasn't even aware that Portland State fielded a football team.

Portland State's Schedule (a member of the fierce Big Sky conference)

at New Mexico - W 17-6
N Colorado - W 45-3
at #21 California - L 42-16
at Weber St - W 20-10
Montana - L 26-20
at Montana St - L 14-0
Idaho St - W 34-13
E Wash - W 34-0
at #25 Oregon - L 55-12
at N Arizona - To Be Played
at Sac St - To Be Played

Help me out here, Milo. Are any of these wins impressive? I think I'd take Memphis to steamroll Portland State too.
 
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USC < Florida
Washington State < LSU
Oregon State < Arkansas
Oregon = Alabama
Arizona State < South Carolina
Washington < Georgia
UCLA > Kentucky
Arizona < Vanderbilt
Minnesota = Air Force
Stanford < Marshall
Portland State < Memphis
 
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All they do in the PAC-10 is throw it around and tag each other.

It's the game by game banging that makes the SEC harder...and the balance.
 
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Liper said:
All they do in the PAC-10 is throw it around and tag each other.

It's the game by game banging that makes the SEC harder...and the balance.
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My feeling as well. As thin as UT is this year at most positions, they could certainly benefit from the softer conference (playing more finesse teams).
 
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allvol said:
Keep in mind that some computers do not count I-AA games at all. None of them use margin of victory. So where the Memphis game hurts Tennessee's computer rank, in some computers, the Portland State game does not even exist when calculating Cal's rank.
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So one of two things should happen here. Either A) They require that all the BCS computers account for I-AA games, or B) Not allow D-IA teams to play I-AA teams. Simple as that.
 
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Vol423 said:
Help me out here, Milo. Are any of these wins impressive? I think I'd take Memphis to steamroll Portland State too.
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Yeah, well the team you didn't even know existed has more wins over D-IA opponnents than Memphis does. Look it up.
 
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rwemyss said:
So one of two things should happen here. Either A) They require that all the BCS computers account for I-AA games, or B) Not allow D-IA teams to play I-AA teams. Simple as that.
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I would vote for A. I like the fact that D-IAA get money for playing D-IA teams. But I think they should only be exhibitions and be dissallowed as actual football contests.
 
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And I know the SEC features a more physical style of play... I'm just wondering who would be who head up. I'm not saying who's schedule is harder to go through. Just a thread of legit 100% curiosity.
 
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