Tension headaches... anyone got a fix?

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I get awful tension headaches. They seem to coincide with a hard workout in the gym, usually if I work out midday I start feeling them by the evening, then I wake up and my head is thumping. Sleeping in an odd position seems to cause them too.

It's been a few years of this and I'm so tired of it. I've seen a massage therapists several times, sometimes she can keep them at bay for a bit but they come back. This last time she was totally ineffective.

Do I need to see a chiropractor? Has anyone ever dealt with this that can give me some advice on how to fix it?
 
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Are you certain it is caused by your muscles? Have you had any x-rays or MRI of your neck? You could have a herniated disk or it could just be you need more potassium
 
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Chiro was the only thing that fixed my chronic headaches. I'm not a meds kind of guy though
 
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I'm not certain of anything. I assume a chiropractor would start there.
Not all do. I went to one who just started whacking on my neck. No history or exam. No xrays. Didn't work for me.
Found one who was thorough. Big difference.
 
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Chro? Get thee to your GP and/or orthopedic specialist, they will shoot X-Rays to see what damage may have occurred in the cervical spine. Expect to get a prescription from GP/orrtho for a mild muscle relaxer like Butibital (sp?). This combination medication is used to treat tension headaches. Acetaminophen helps to decrease the pain from the headache. Caffeine helps increase the effects of acetaminophen. Butalbital is a sedative that helps to decrease anxiety and cause sleepiness and relaxation.
 
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Chro? Get thee to your GP and/or orthopedic specialist, they will shoot X-Rays to see what damage may have occurred in the cervical spine. Expect to get a prescription from GP/orrtho for a mild muscle relaxer like Butibital (sp?). This combination medication is used to treat tension headaches. Acetaminophen helps to decrease the pain from the headache. Caffeine helps increase the effects of acetaminophen. Butalbital is a sedative that helps to decrease anxiety and cause sleepiness and relaxation.
I support this suggestion. Also consider vision and ENT/dental/TMJ evaluation. Depending on severity and the progression of your headaches, presence of any other neurological symptoms, etc, more detailed c-spine and/or brain imaging might also be warranted.

You mentioned workouts triggering your headaches -- do you take any pre-workout supplements? Do you drink much caffeine on a daily basis?
 
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I support this suggestion. Also consider vision and ENT/dental/TMJ evaluation. Depending on severity and the progression of your headaches, presence of any other neurological symptoms, etc, more detailed c-spine and/or brain imaging might also be warranted.

You mentioned workouts triggering your headaches -- do you take any pre-workout supplements? Do you drink much caffeine on a daily basis?

No on pre-workout.

Caffeine, eh. I mean I definitely drink it daily. Usually 1 or 2 cans of Coke Zero every day.
 
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I support this suggestion. Also consider vision and ENT/dental/TMJ evaluation. Depending on severity and the progression of your headaches, presence of any other neurological symptoms, etc, more detailed c-spine and/or brain imaging might also be warranted.

You mentioned workouts triggering your headaches -- do you take any pre-workout supplements? Do you drink much caffeine on a daily basis?
Have you heard about facial pain issues potentially stemming from covid?
 
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Have you heard about facial pain issues potentially stemming from covid?
No. Honestly, I haven't seen or heard about any significant adverse outcomes since the virus eventually mutated back to a more "natural" coronavirus.
 
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No. Honestly, I haven't seen or heard about any significant adverse outcomes since the virus eventually mutated back to a more "natural" coronavirus.
Okay thanks. I had it for the first time last Oct. and developed facial pain right after. I've seen my PCP, two ENTs, and just recently a neurologist. Two CT scans & a MRI showed inflammation. Pain is my only side effect. Three rounds of antibiotics and steroids have done nothing. Now trying different medications with the neurologist. Doctors are stumped on how to treat or what is the cause.
 
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No. Honestly, I haven't seen or heard about any significant adverse outcomes since the virus eventually mutated back to a more "natural" coronavirus.
I resisted the vaccine early on, but the grandbaby's were newborn and we were supposed to go see them that xmas. So, I caved and got the shot for the babies, then we ended up not being able to go. Never got boosters, just the one.

Roll forward 3 years (59 now), and I have cronic "cough" chest congestion. Never goes away. Always got a flugie wanting to cut loose. Otherwise very healthy. No allergy or sinus history. Only had a tendency for bronchitis twice a year that gave way to Rhino virus. But, haven't had that in over 1.5 years. Can't recall last time had flu, but many years ago. Quit smoking 24 years ago, never over a pack a day then, and only smoked not even 10 years. Only thing I do is dip, and an occasional drink. Pretty positive I did have the 19 once that I know of.

Makes me wonder if my chest congestion is related to the shot or the 19.
 
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After asking a few other people, some have suggested my tension headaches could be a result of low testosterone. Overexerting myself at the gym and not having the testosterone to keep up with it.

Any of you fellas ever had that? What were your symptoms?
 
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I have no idea if this would work for you but.......
My optometrist in EMid TN is a great guy n we talk about everything... He told me this story; At a convention he was talking to a long lost friend. Friends wife found him and said "I've got to get a shot of Amaretto" . Friend n wife disappeared. Later friend found him again and apologized saying his wife was not an alcoholic but suffered from Migraines. Amaretto, which is made from apricot pits, has.....I forgot ingredient....that mitigates her migraines!!
Again, have no idea if this will work for you, But, for the price of a liquor compared to Dr. ?
(no offense KD)
 
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After asking a few other people, some have suggested my tension headaches could be a result of low testosterone. Overexerting myself at the gym and not having the testosterone to keep up with it.

Any of you fellas ever had that? What were your symptoms?
Do you hydrate enough? I get what feels like tension headaches if I'm not actually hydrating enough.
 
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I have no idea if this would work for you but.......
My optometrist in EMid TN is a great guy n we talk about everything... He told me this story; At a convention he was talking to a long lost friend. Friends wife found him and said "I've got to get a shot of Amaretto" . Friend n wife disappeared. Later friend found him again and apologized saying his wife was not an alcoholic but suffered from Migraines. Amaretto, which is made from apricot pits, has.....I forgot ingredient....that mitigates her migraines!!
Again, have no idea if this will work for you, But, for the price of a liquor compared to Dr. ?
(no offense KD)
I can get with this suggestion!
 
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I have no idea if this would work for you but.......
My optometrist in EMid TN is a great guy n we talk about everything... He told me this story; At a convention he was talking to a long lost friend. Friends wife found him and said "I've got to get a shot of Amaretto" . Friend n wife disappeared. Later friend found him again and apologized saying his wife was not an alcoholic but suffered from Migraines. Amaretto, which is made from apricot pits, has.....I forgot ingredient....that mitigates her migraines!!
Again, have no idea if this will work for you, But, for the price of a liquor compared to Dr. ?
(no offense KD)
I'm definitely not a hippie naturalist type but it does blow my mind how some of these types of things work. My wife's been making her own soap and shampoo lately and it's changed the game significantly as far as both of our hair/skin health.
 
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I get awful tension headaches. They seem to coincide with a hard workout in the gym, usually if I work out midday I start feeling them by the evening, then I wake up and my head is thumping. Sleeping in an odd position seems to cause them too.

It's been a few years of this and I'm so tired of it. I've seen a massage therapists several times, sometimes she can keep them at bay for a bit but they come back. This last time she was totally ineffective.

Do I need to see a chiropractor? Has anyone ever dealt with this that can give me some advice on how to fix it?

Don't replace a doctor's advice with ChatGPT (I'm not trying to put @kiddiedoc out of business), but it's great for helping to diagnose issues and gain understanding, especially when you can't access a doctor immediately. I get really stressed out about any kind of health concern, and then I go straight to GPT and ask it if I need to be worried, more or less.

I've been working through some crazy issues for the last 18 months. It's wild, and IDK what I'd do without GPT. I have neck muscle soreness, tingly sensations, and then down in my ribs I've had tons of discomfort and that I think it's related to the neck. When I told my general practitioner this, he seemed very confused. Then I go see specialists and it takes forever to get through testing, and all that, and I don't always remember to mention every symptom, or I get new symptoms/questions that can't wait until I see a doctor again, and GPT helps me with all of it.

Tying it back to my issues, I started getting big heart palpitations recently with my rib soreness flaring up. GPT let me know that the heart stuff and rib stuff is likely related to my neck stuff because of irritation of the Vagus nerve. It was such a relief to find that out. My GP tells me to come in a week later (no hurry) because I'm not having chest pain, and then the next day I have chest pain, so I ask GPT, and it says the chest pain I have is most likely musculoskeletal because I feel better when I get up and walk around and stuff, and it hurts when I put physical pressure on my chest, and not when I get my heart rate up. This is something that gave me comfort right away and allowed me to lower my stress levels until I see my doctor. ChatGPT remembered I had mentioned neck issues months before. It's not even something I included in my question about my heart palpitations.

So anyway, I plugged in your question. I recommend getting on GPT and talking it out, but here's a start:

Tension headaches can be frustrating, especially when they interfere with daily life and recur despite interventions. Your friend's situation sounds like it could be multifactorial, involving both physical strain from workouts and possibly poor sleep posture. Here are a few suggestions based on what your friend shared:

1. Evaluate Workout Routine and Technique:​

  • Intensity and form: If the tension headaches follow workouts, the way your friend is exercising may be contributing. Incorrect form or lifting too heavy can cause strain in the neck and upper back, leading to tension headaches. A personal trainer or physical therapist specializing in sports injuries could evaluate their form and adjust their workout routine.
  • Warm-ups and cool-downs: Stretching before and after exercise may help reduce muscle tension. Focus on neck, shoulders, and upper back to relieve tightness that can trigger headaches.

2. Posture and Ergonomics:​

  • Post-workout posture: Poor posture throughout the day can exacerbate tension in muscles already fatigued from exercise. Your friend may benefit from an ergonomic review of their workspace or making adjustments to how they stand, sit, and sleep.

3. Sleep Posture:​

  • Since your friend mentioned sleeping in an odd position can trigger headaches, it might be worthwhile to focus on their sleeping environment. A supportive pillow that keeps the neck in a neutral position can help. They might need to experiment with pillow height or sleeping positions.

4. Massage Therapy vs. Chiropractic Care:​

  • Massage Therapy: While massage therapy can help relieve muscle tightness, it sounds like it hasn’t been a lasting solution for your friend. They might want to explore a different massage therapist, as sometimes techniques vary widely between practitioners.
  • Chiropractic Care: If the headaches are related to alignment issues in the neck and spine, a chiropractor might help, especially if there is any misalignment exacerbating muscle tension. Chiropractors can also assess whether there are any vertebral issues contributing to the headaches.
  • Physical Therapy: A physical therapist can also address musculoskeletal issues and might be able to provide strengthening exercises, posture corrections, and other strategies for long-term relief.

5. Headache Management Strategies:​

  • Hydration and nutrition: Dehydration or electrolyte imbalance from workouts can contribute to headaches, so ensuring proper hydration, especially after exercise, is crucial.
  • Stress management: Since tension headaches often have a stress component, techniques like meditation, yoga, or mindfulness can help reduce overall tension and stress that may lead to headaches.

6. Consult a Doctor or Specialist:​

  • If your friend has been experiencing headaches for several years, a doctor’s evaluation might be necessary. A neurologist or headache specialist could rule out any underlying conditions, and they might recommend specific treatments such as prescription medication or other interventions like Botox injections for chronic tension headaches.
 

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